Hey Bart, they are up again. my webserver had an unexpected downtime yesterday. :-)
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 23:27:05 Bart McLeod wrote: > Hello Benjamin, > > Thanks a lot for pointing this out - and Matthew, sorry for not stopping > the thread. It's just freaking hard to keep up with all the development > going on :-) . > > I will take a look at it for sure. However, the links you provide are dead: > > www.beberlei.de/jquery/demo/ > www.beberlei.de/jquery/demo/formdemo.php > > that is, right now they are offline. I would like to take a look at your > demo's before anything else! > > Regards, > > Bart McLeod > > Benjamin Eberlei schreef: > > Hello Bart, > > > > i have already put together two proposal concerning jQuery support, one > > for a generic helper that takes care of loading jQuery from CDN or local > > path and takes care of a document ready (on load) execution stack. > > > > http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/ZendX_JQuery_View_Helper_JQ > >uery+-+Benjamin+Eberlei > > > > then a jQuery UI proposal, which allows integration of some of the jQuery > > UI widgets as part of view helpers and form elements into your ZF app. > > > > http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/ZendX_JQuery+UI+Widgets+Ext > >ension+-+Benjamin+Eberlei > > > > personally i think, jQuery is frikking easy, so its probably good to just > > write the code yourself, but some of the helpers i put together really > > take some work from you and help you to build an application using jQuery > > fast. they also group all the jQuery code together so that you don't have > > little js snippets layign around your views everywhere. > > > > you might want to have a look at: > > www.beberlei.de/jquery/demo/ > > www.beberlei.de/jquery/demo/formdemo.php > > > > which shows two examples of how the jQuery view helpers work. > > > > any feedback is appreciated, although the components have reached final > > status and are finished and checked into zend framework extras incubator > > already: > > > > http://framework.zend.com/svn/framework/extras/incubator/library/ZendX/ > > > > the documentation is also finished, if you want to get some hints at how > > it all works. > > > > greetings, > > Benjamin > > > > On Tuesday 16 September 2008 11:33:57 Bart McLeod wrote: > >> I have used jquery with Zend_Form, before Dojo was integrated and I > >> still use jquery. I would welcome integration of jquery too. However, I > >> must admit that I did not even try Dojo, because I found the interface > >> intimidating, the way it is described in the online reference guide. I > >> will try it though and then decide if I still want to use jquery. I do > >> not like the idea of having two different Ajax libraries in use in one > >> system and I do like the idea of out-of-the-box Ajax functionality. If I > >> read through jquery documentation, I understand it immediately. I think > >> it's idea of simplicity matches that of ZF, which cannot be said of the > >> list of functions available in Dojo. But there's no use crying over > >> spilled water, if any. Wil is right of course, if we like jquery that > >> much, let's put together a decent proposal. > >> > >> Bart McLeod > >> > >> Wil Sinclair schreef: > >>> There are lots of reasons that Zend chose to partner with the Dojo > >>> Foundation. But we realize that some developers prefer other JavaScript > >>> toolkits, and that's why we'd never force our users to work with any > >>> particular toolkit. Zend has chosen Dojo to contribute out-of-the-box > >>> AJAX functionality to Zend, while at the same time making it clear that > >>> we will welcome contributions from the community to support other > >>> toolkits. In fact, there are a couple of proposals for JQuery > >>> integration that are pretty far along now: > >>> > >>> http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/ZendX_JQuery_View_Helper_ > >>>J Query+-+Benjamin+Eberlei > >>> http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFPROP/ZendX_JQuery+UI+Widgets+E > >>>x tension+-+Benjamin+Eberlei > >>> > >>> If there is a JS Toolkit that you prefer to Dojo, I wholeheartedly and > >>> sincerely recommend that you look in to creating your own proposal. > >>> > >>> ,Wil > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: zuhair.naqvi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 8:46 PM > >>>> To: [email protected] > >>>> Subject: [fw-general] Why Dojo of All??? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Why dojo of all? Whats wrong with an MIT license? To be frank Dojo is > >>>> the > >>>> shittest JS framework i've ever worked with. Both its code and design > >>>> philosophy are no match for competition like jQuery or Prototype. > >>>> > >>>> I've moved from Symfony to ZF and prefer ZF even over ROR and was very > >>>> excited to hear about a client library integration but I am shocked to > >>>> see > >>>> Dojo instead of others which are miles ahead of it. > >>>> > >>>> Please explain... > >>>> -- > >>>> View this message in context: > >>> > >>> http://www.nabble.com/Why-Dojo-of-All---- > >>> > >>>> tp19504841p19504841.html > >>>> Sent from the Zend Framework mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Benjamin Eberlei http://www.beberlei.de
