On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -- till <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> (on Tuesday, 09 December 2008, 12:49 PM +0100):
>> I know that for RHEL/CentOS, there are unofficial repositories with an
>> even more current version of PHP.
>
> Understood. However, for users on managed hosting systems, or with RH
> contracts, usage of unofficial repos will violate terms of service.
> However, that said, we still upped the minimum supported version. I
> personally don't feel that advances in PHP should be held hostage by
> distribution vendors. :)

I'm not really in that situation, but I think that if you're paying
for it, shouldn't you be in a position to request updates? Otherwise
you're wasting budget on something that doesn't seem worth the money.
;-)

>> Most other distros have no issues offering 5.2.4. And in the end, in
>> order to be able to stick with maintainable software, you could also
>> build your own RPM/port/deb/whatever.
>>
>> There's really no reason to stick with an old version of PHP. Unless
>> you run really, really old software but since we are on a Zend
>> Framework mailinglist, you can rule that out - sort of. ;-)
>
> I agree with this in principle. Again, however, we're talking the
> minimum *supported* version. We cannot simply specify "current stable"
> as the minimum version, as most institutions will upgrade their server
> stack much less frequently than their application stack.

If the minimum supported version is such a concern, then why is the
version raised because of the test suite? Correct me if I'm wrong, but
last time I checked I didn't build my application to run on the test
suite, but I build my application to run on the framework code.

Point taken, they are tied together and I also see that QA depends on it.

So if the minimum version is really [your] (or Zend's) concern, then
the process makes no sense. The minimum required should be 5.2.1
(because of Zend_File). Features required by the test suite should be
backported in the testsuite, in userland.

Till

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