> > First off, I don't think this is the place to get involved into a political > discussion. >
Then don't. I'm confident that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will not be solved on a programming-related mailing list, so if you feel the need to reply please limit it to the original sender. -Matt On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Andrés Robinet <[email protected]>wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Behzad [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:43 PM > > To: Zend Framework General; PHP General Mailing List; IxDA > > Subject: [PHP] Thank you everyone, What a wonderful world > > > > Hi List, > > > > I would like to appreciate from you all. I hope that you enjoy your > > holidays. > > Children (yes! children) are dying in Gaza, and we're safe! We're happy. > > Happy Christmas!! > > Thank you for supporting Israel, and for being so quite. The God is with > > you! > > > > How Palestinians defend(!) themselves with stones, and how Zionist are > > performing > > a new holocaust using the American weapons in a prison, named Gaza strip. > > But you now what... this is really good. At least this could bring > > democracy, and freedom to > > middle east. PEACE! HUMAN RIGHTS! YEAH! a lot of bullshit !!. > > > > We're all responsible for this event. What a shame for mankind in 21th > > century. > > > > Forget this. This is SPAM and/or PROPAGANDA! > > > > CHEERS! > > -behzad > > First off, I don't think this is the place to get involved into a political > discussion. No matter how much blood is spread, or who's the devil, this is > all about politics, and power, and we are not politicians but programmers. > This is a Zend Framework mailing list, not a human rights forum or an office > of the UN. So, yes, what you are saying is SPAM and PROPAGANDA, since it was > unsolicited and has arrived to the wrong place. If you want us to support > your cause, it is not the place to ask for it. Nobody is going to add a > banner to his website saying "Long live Hamas" just because you post a > message in the Zend Framework list, on the contrary, you'll generate just > the opposite feeling. > > Second, if peace and human rights are bullshit for you, I don't know what > you are asking for: WAR and HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION? Peace and human rights > are not bullshit just because a bullshitter speaks about them. It is > precisely that kind of speech ("Mr X is a bullshitter, Mr X speaks about > peace, ergo, peace is bullshit") which leads to more war, more harm and more > bullshitters talking about peace and human rights. About democracy and > freedom, that is precisely why you can post a message like this without > being tortured and killed (you are not even being sent off this list). Try > that in Iran or Cuba (if you can get an internet connection there). You > don't need to believe in democracy and freedom, go and praise dictators and > build a prison in your country for the ones who don't agree with you, but > don't come to me saying that it's democracy's fault or freedom's fault that > children are being killed... it is a bit more complex than that, and without > democracy and freedom, there would be hundreds of thousands instead of just > hundreds dead. > > Thanks to democracy and freedom I can say that "Bush is an idiot son of a > bitch", write it on a billboard, make a t-shirt with that slogan and say it > to his face if I ever see him nearby. That won't solve world hunger, but at > least I can complain and do something without being killed. I can say the > same about my president, I'm not an American citizen, I don't live in the > US, but my country has a democracy, a very corrupt democracy, and I prefer > that to the dictatorship we had twenty five years ago. Some principles, such > as freedom, are not tradable. > > Third, you are confusing Palestinians with Hamas, not every Palestinian is > a Hamas member. And NO, we are NOT RESPONSIBLE for this event, Hamas and the > Israel government are, NOT US. Hamas decided to end the truce and start > launching rockets and the Israel government decided to bombard them, that's > how history is written. And it has nothing to do with the average > Palestinian or Israeli citizen. I didn't decide to invade Falkland in 1982, > the dictatorship we had took that decision, and thousands of young Argentine > soldiers died because of a wimp. And yes, I believe Falkland is Argentine, > but I will never support a military invasion to the islands just because of > that belief. > > And fourth, I've not seen the same protests worldwide every time a > terrorist attack kills hundreds of people... I didn't see the left wing > parties of my country complaining on September 11th when 3000 people died, > they were actually drinking to celebrate, the same happened when a car bomb > destroyed Israeli embassy in my country (detonated by Iranian terrorists)... > How come now they are protesting at the same Israeli embassy? What kind of > coherence is that? Are they supporting peace or just violence when it occurs > from one side alone? Now, THAT IS BULLSHIT and I'm tired of it. > > Regards, > > Rob > >
