Presumably the poll was held was to gauge support among framework users and not 
just members of the contributor mailing list. That the poll is blocked in your 
country may be either the poll host or the URL shortener service. Doubt it was 
intentional! ;)

Paddy

On 13 Aug 2010, at 16:11, "D. J." <[email protected]> wrote:

I only for myself:
I was the first one replying your email of "General inclinations
regarding prefixing non-public members?" with "No underscore".
But I did not participate your poll for I really don't understand your
intention of creating a poll after you had that email and so many
people already responded.


On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney
<[email protected]> wrote:

-- Саша Стаменковић <[email protected]> wrote
(on Friday, 13 August 2010, 10:14 AM +0200):
Can you tell us current score? :)

There are currently 381 responses:

 * 57% vote "Yes" (to remove the underscores)
 * 38% vote "No" (to retain underscores)
 * 4%  vote "No opinion"

What has been interesting is that the percentages have remained
consistent from the outset -- I expected more deviation. What is also
interesting is that there is no real clear majority. Typically, I like
to see a 2/3 vote to feel comfortable that the change is widely
accepted, but that is not the case at this time.


On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney <[email protected]>
wrote:

    ZF Coding Standards are based on PEAR's CS. That standard was developed
    first by Horde, then expanded by PEAR, during the PHP 4 lifecycle. PHP 4
    had no concept of visibility in its object model; to provide some
    pseudo-visibility, PEAR CS mandated that members considered non-public
    should be prefixed with an underscore.

    With the advent of PHP 5, PHP's object model received visibility
    operators in the form of private, protected, and public. Applying PEAR
    CS to PHP 5 code meant that if you marked a member as private or
    protected, you would also prefix with the underscore. Many have felt
    this is redundant, and also that it makes refactoring more difficult
    (changes in visibility often mean renaming the members). Proponents of
    the standard, however, argue that the leading underscore leads to easier
    maintenance of the code -- you know immediately what the visibility of
    the member you're dealing with is just by looking at it.

    PEAR2 has decided to eschew the underscore prefix:

       http://wiki.pear.php.net/index.php/MeetingMinutes20080824#
    Underscore_prefix_on_private_.28protected.3F.29

    Basically, this rule is no longer required (as it was in PEAR1), though
    developers may choose to use them.

    What is YOUR opinion? Should the underscore be dropped in ZF2?
    Please vote!

       http://is.gd/eeA6f

    Please do _not_ reply to this thread -- the arguments for and against
    are well known at this time -- we're simply trying to decide on whether
    or not to amend the coding standards for ZF2.

    Thanks!

    --
    Matthew Weier O'Phinney
    Project Lead            | [email protected]
    Zend Framework          | http://framework.zend.com/
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Project Lead            | [email protected]
Zend Framework          | http://framework.zend.com/
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