Matt thanks for the reply,

I have used the methods as per this tutorial as well - I guess my point with
over-engineer is just that, a lot of classes, options etc. etc. to
accomplish something really trivial, maybe I'm just lazy 

Anyway sometimes true genius lies in simplicity, I consider myself very
proficient with ZF and I struggle with decorators and every single ZF
developer I've worked with feels the same... I'm not referring to simple
form layouts as you'll find in 80% of all the tutorials - then there is also
the obvious potholes as well, file fields and belongsTo array issues etc.

bottom line is most of the time front-end developers/designers design the
form layouts, which in a counter argument makes the decorators sort of
redundant anyway, unless we use view scripts and hand code the render() of
1000 fields.

long story short, the decorators does not help us with RAD, its frustrating
and makes us miss deadlines...history has proven that the more complex
something gets, the more prone to error, the trend these days are anyway
"simpler is better"



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