James,

Many thanks for this very useful information!!  With respect to the WD
drives does this mean that they finally support Linux?  I have a SATA 300
SE16 that is not yet installed because WD support says that WD does not
support Linux, and with pins 5-6 jumpered it will only be a "150" drive.  Do
you have any further info on their Linux support?

Best regards, and again, many thanks!

John

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:09 AM, James Scott Jr <[email protected]> wrote:

> John,
>
> If what your really after is significantly higher performance and io
> throughput, consider 10K speed drives.  The increased speed doesn't
> directly translate into increased noise.
>
> Look at the write, seeks, and latency times below.  10K speed drives
> with 16M buffers sit right in the middle of performance and price (lower
> is better on both points).
>
>
> $169.99 Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1500HLFS
>  150GB 10000 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (bare drive) - OEM
>      * Cache: 16MB
>      * Form Factor: 3.5"
>      * Average Seek Time: 4.2ms
>      * Average Write Time: 4.7ms
>      * Average Latency: 5.5ms
>      * Features: The 2.5" WD Veloci Raptor is enclosed in a 3.5"
>        enterprise-class mounting frame.
>      * Parts: 5 years limited
>      * Labor: 5 years limited
>      * Model #: WD1500HLFS
>      * Item #: N82E16822136296
>      *
>
> Versus a 7200 Speed 16M
> $54.99 Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250410AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
> Hard Drive - OEM
>
>      * Cache: 16MB
>      * Form Factor: 3.5"
>      * Average Seek Time: 8.5ms
>      * Average Write Time: 10ms
>      * Average Latency: 4.16ms
>      * Model #: ST3250410AS
>      * Item #: N82E16822148262
>
> $74.99 Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST3250310NS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
> Hard Drive - OEM
>      * Cache: 32MB
>      * Form Factor: 3.5"
>      * Average Seek Time: 8.5ms
>      * Average Write Time: 9.5ms
>      * Average Latency: 4.16ms
>      * Model #: ST3250310NS
>      * Item #: N82E16822148309
>
> $189 Fujitsu MBA3147NC 147GB 15000 RPM SCSI Ultra320 80pin Hard Drive -
> OEM
>      * Cache: 8MB  (16MB is $249.99, with no increase in metrics)
>      * Form Factor: 3.5"
>      * Average Seek Time: 3.4ms
>      * Average Write Time: 3.9ms
>      * Average Latency: 2ms
>      * Model #: MBA3147NC
>      * Item #: N82E16822116061
>
>
> Although hearing you say raid5, and reduced opportunity for data loss, I
> would say Large 16K/7200 SataII drives could be your best choice. (lots
> of them, as in 4+ drives (((NOT 3))))
>
> For more detailed info on the data transfer issue, look into the kernel
> docs for FileSystem Driver, or EXT3 Drivers.
>
> Here is a hdparam article that sheds some like on tuning opportunities -
> the real story:
> http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2000/06/29/hdparm.html
>
> James,
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 09:43 -0500, John McKelvey wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > I want to add 3 identical hard drives under Raid 5.  Am considering
> > Seagate SATA II server drives.  One question is does it really make
> > much difference to use drives with 16Mbytes cache rather than 32Mbytes
> > cache?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > John McKelvey
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