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>    1. Building a New PC: It's Greek to Me (Joseph Brennan)
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> Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 13:46:32 -0400
> From: Joseph Brennan <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [fwlug] Building a New PC: It's Greek to Me
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> This is slightly off-topic, but it's tangentially Linux-related and I don't
> know where else to turn for help.
> 
> My cousin's husband in Greece is convinced that I'm a master hacker because
> I showed off a few Linux command line tricks on my netbook while I was
> there.  He wants me to help design a new PC for him, for 1000?  or less
> (about $1,250).  He is obsessed with having the latest everything.  The main
> tasks he wants the computer for are e-mail/Internet and playing a Windows
> XP-based rally racing video game (the company he wants to buy from only
> offers Windows 7, so I'm not sure what he's going to do about that).  I told
> him I don't think he needs to spend that much because his game is old and
> isn't as much of a resource hog as newer games, so he doesn't need as much
> memory and processing speed as he thinks.  I wanted him to look for a used
> computer with XP to run his game, with the ability to dual-boot Ubuntu, of
> course.  He won't listen.  Only the best, he says---as long as I stay under
> $1,250.
> 
> So, I'm trying to help him design the fastest, most durable system I can
> while staying within his budget.  The problem is, while I have experience
> breathing new life into old computers, I have never set out to build an
> entirely new one.  I've never needed, for instance, to buy a new fan.
> They've always just worked.  Is a 60?  fan  really 25% better than a 45?
> fan?  Something tells me "no," but I've never had to buy one.  I've picked
> the cheapest parts possible while keeping in mind that he wants high
> performance, a bigger monitor, and probably the smallest profile possible
> for the rest of the computer.  The price is 1,250?, which is over-budget.
> I'd like to remove Windows7, which adds over $100 US to the price, but he
> wants a Windows machine.  (I will, however, be sneaking an Ubuntu dual-boot
> install onto it the next time I visit!)
> 
> Any suggestions on cost-cutting measures?  Is the i7 really worth the
> premium over the Core2 Duo? Wanring: Massive amounts of HTML and some Greek
> characters follow...
> 
> <http://www.plaisio.gr/Peripherals/Connectivity/Cables/Power-Supply-Cables/Konig-Power-Cable-For-Nb-3Pin-CABLE-712.htm>
> 
> Konig ??????? ??????????? ??? NB
> (3pin)<http://www.plaisio.gr/Peripherals/Connectivity/Cables/Power-Supply-Cables/Konig-Power-Cable-For-Nb-3Pin-CABLE-712.htm>
> ????????<http://www.plaisio.gr/Cart.aspx?Action=RemoveProduct&Product=1170627>
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>  2,89 ? 2,89 ?
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> <http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/PC-Cases/Coolermaster-Elite-310-Silver-Case-RC-310-SKN1-GP-RC-310-SKN1-GP.htm>
> 
> CoolerMaster Elite 310 Silver Case
> (RC-310-SKN1-GP)<http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/PC-Cases/Coolermaster-Elite-310-Silver-Case-RC-310-SKN1-GP-RC-310-SKN1-GP.htm>
> ????????<http://www.plaisio.gr/Cart.aspx?Action=RemoveProduct&Product=1312863>
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>  35,50 ? 35,50 ?
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> <http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/PSU/Xigmatek-Go-Green-PSU-400W.htm>
> 
> Xigmatek Go Green PSU
> (400W)<http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/PSU/Xigmatek-Go-Green-PSU-400W.htm>
> ????????<http://www.plaisio.gr/Cart.aspx?Action=RemoveProduct&Product=1309005>
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> 
>  59,90 ? 59,90 ?
> 
> <http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/CPU/Intel-Core-i7-930-s1366-2-80GHz-BX80601930.htm>
> 
> Intel Core i7 930 (s1366,
> 2.80GHz)<http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/CPU/Intel-Core-i7-930-s1366-2-80GHz-BX80601930.htm>
>  
> ????????<http://www.plaisio.gr/Cart.aspx?Action=RemoveProduct&Product=1457632>
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> 
>  282,90 ? 282,90 ?
> 
> <http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/CPU-Coolers/Xigmatek-Hdt-S1284-Big-Scorpion-CAC-SXHH4-U01.htm>
> 
> Xigmatek HDT-S1284-Big Scoprion Cpu Cooler
> (CAC-SXHH4-U01)<http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/CPU-Coolers/Xigmatek-Hdt-S1284-Big-Scorpion-CAC-SXHH4-U01.htm>
> ????????<http://www.plaisio.gr/Cart.aspx?Action=RemoveProduct&Product=1142968>
> 
> 
>  40,60 ? 40,60 ?
> 
> <http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/Motherboards/Asus-P6T-Se-1366-X58-Ddr3-90-MIB870-G0EAY00Z.htm>
> 
> Asus P6T SE (1366, DDR3,
> X58)<http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/Motherboards/Asus-P6T-Se-1366-X58-Ddr3-90-MIB870-G0EAY00Z.htm>
>  
> ????????<http://www.plaisio.gr/Cart.aspx?Action=RemoveProduct&Product=1229753>
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> 
>  189,98 ? 189,98 ?
> 
> <http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/RAM/OCZ-Gold-Low-Voltage-8GB-DDR3-1333-Ram-Kit-PC3-10666-9-9-9-20-OCZ3G1333LV8GQ.htm>
> 
> OCZ Gold Low Voltage 8GB DDR3-1333 Ram Kit (PC3-10666, 9-9-9-20,
> OCZ3G1333LV8GQ)<http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/RAM/OCZ-Gold-Low-Voltage-8GB-DDR3-1333-Ram-Kit-PC3-10666-9-9-9-20-OCZ3G1333LV8GQ.htm>
> ????????<http://www.plaisio.gr/Cart.aspx?Action=RemoveProduct&Product=1462415>
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> 
>  243,00 ? 243,00 ?
> 
> <http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/Hard-Disk-Drives/Seagate-Sata-Ii-250-Gb-8Mb-7200-12-ST3250318AS.htm>
> 
> Seagate 250 GB HDD (8MB , 7200.12rpm, Sata II ,
> ST3250318AS)<http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/Hard-Disk-Drives/Seagate-Sata-Ii-250-Gb-8Mb-7200-12-ST3250318AS.htm>
>  
> ????????<http://www.plaisio.gr/Cart.aspx?Action=RemoveProduct&Product=1287958>
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> 
>  37,00 ? 37,00 ?
> 
> <http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/SVGA/ASUS-Vga-Pci-X-5450-Silent-Di-512Md2-Lp-90-C1CP2A-J0UANABZ.htm>
> 
> Asus 5450 SILENT/DI/512MD2 (Low Profile, PCI-Express, DDR2, 512
> MB)<http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/SVGA/ASUS-Vga-Pci-X-5450-Silent-Di-512Md2-Lp-90-C1CP2A-J0UANABZ.htm>
>  
> ????????<http://www.plaisio.gr/Cart.aspx?Action=RemoveProduct&Product=1467158>
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> 
>  50,69 ? 50,69 ?
> 
> <http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/Optical-Disc-Drives/SONY-AD-7240S-0B-DVDRW-SATA-24X-BULK-BLACK.htm>
> 
> Sony AD-7240S-0B DVDRW + / - (Sata 24X, Bulk,
> Black)<http://www.plaisio.gr/Computers/Hardware/Optical-Disc-Drives/SONY-AD-7240S-0B-DVDRW-SATA-24X-BULK-BLACK.htm>
>  
> ????????<http://www.plaisio.gr/Cart.aspx?Action=RemoveProduct&Product=1301799>
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> 
>  19,51 ? 19,51 ?
> 
> <http://www.plaisio.gr/B2O/B2O-Software/Operating-System/Microsoft-Windows-7-Home-Premium-32bit-Greek-Eng-OEM.htm>
> 
> Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit Greek/Eng
> OEM<http://www.plaisio.gr/B2O/B2O-Software/Operating-System/Microsoft-Windows-7-Home-Premium-32bit-Greek-Eng-OEM.htm>
>  
> ????????<http://www.plaisio.gr/Cart.aspx?Action=RemoveProduct&Product=1401777>
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> 
>  88,40 ? 88,40 ?
> 
> <http://www.plaisio.gr/Peripherals/PC-Monitors/Monitors/Asus-23-6-VH242H.htm>
> 
> Asus VH242H TFT Monitor
> 24''<http://www.plaisio.gr/Peripherals/PC-Monitors/Monitors/Asus-23-6-VH242H.htm>
>  
> ????????<http://www.plaisio.gr/Cart.aspx?Action=RemoveProduct&Product=1210998>
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> 
>  189,00 ? 189,00 ?
> 
> <http://www.plaisio.gr/Peripherals/PC-Peripherals/Keyboards/Logitech-Wired-Classic-200-968019-0115.htm>
> 
> Logitech Classic
> 200<http://www.plaisio.gr/Peripherals/PC-Peripherals/Keyboards/Logitech-Wired-Classic-200-968019-0115.htm>
>  
> ????????<http://www.plaisio.gr/Cart.aspx?Action=RemoveProduct&Product=1015230>
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> 
>  9,90 ? 9,90 ?
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>   ???????? ?????? ????????? 1.249,27 ?  ?????? ??????????? 0,00 ?  ????????
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Personally I prefer Gigabyte motherboards and AMD processors. I believe
they save you some money and they seem to be more Linux friendly in my
experience.



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