Firewall?

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Joseph Brennan <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, they are on the same subnet.  I just changed from "Workgroup" to
> "Homegroup" and now the Ubuntu machine can see the Linux machine, which is
> an improvement.  Windows still can't seem to see Ubuntu and its printer
> though.
>
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:37 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> From: Joseph Brennan <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
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>> Well, I'm back here again, and this time I brought my Ubuntu netbook
>> (don't
>> ask me why I neglected to bring it the first time!) and a borrowed Mac.
>> Both were printing within a few seconds, but I still can't print from
>> Windows 7.  I've tried "Browse for a printer."  The Windows 7 laptop sees
>> only itself.  I've tried "Select a shared printer by name" and "Add a
>> Printer using a TCP/IP address or hostname."  Both methods fail to
>> discover
>> the Ubuntu box and attached printer.
>> Instead, I get this message:
>> *
>> Additional port information required
>>
>> The device is not found on the network.  Be sure that:
>>
>> 1. The network device is turned on.
>> 2. The network is connected.
>> 3. The device is properly configured.
>> 4. The address on the previous page is correct.
>>
>> If you think the address is not correct, click Back to return to the
>> previous page.  Then correct the address and perform another search on the
>> network.  If you are sure the address is correct, select the device type
>> below.
>>
>> Device type
>> [Radio button] Standard [Drop down Menu: Generic card, followed by a host
>> of
>> other options]
>> [Radio button] Custom
>>
>> *Well, we can checkmark 1-4.  The address is correct.  That's what I told
>> Ubuntu and Mac and they found the printer no problem.  The dropdown menu
>> has
>> lots of options, mostly, it seems, for standalone printers with their own
>> network cards, which is not what I'm doing here. Should I be using
>> "Custom?"
>> *  *I tried using the dropdown menu and selecting an option that went
>> something like "Network card and parallel port," since the host computer
>> is
>> connected via a network card, and the printer is attached to it by a
>> parallel port, but that didn't work.
>>
>> Am I going about adding the printer in Windows the wrong way?  Are there
>> any
>> tweaks I can do to the Samba configuration?  The only thing I can think of
>> is that perhaps I should edit the smb.conf to say "Homegroup" instead of
>> "Workgroup."  Might that help?
>>
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>> > Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:39:54 -0500
>> > From: Kevin <[email protected]>
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: [fwlug]  Windows won't print to an Ubuntu printer
>> > Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>> > I have a slackware server sharing a printer to windows xp, windows 7,
>> > and Debian via SAMBA and CUPS. I didnt have to do anything special for
>> > the 7 computer, just set up the printer. I would be happy to share my
>> > SAMBA config or what ever you need.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> > >    1. Windows won't print to an Ubuntu printer (Joseph Brennan)
>> > >    2. Re: Windows won't print to an Ubuntu printer (Jonathan Bartels)
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>> > > Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:49:16 -0500
>> > > From: Joseph Brennan <[email protected]>
>> > > To: [email protected]
>> > > Subject: [fwlug] Windows won't print to an Ubuntu printer
>> > > Message-ID:
>> > >
>> > > <[email protected]<aanlktimqa%[email protected]>
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>> > >
>> > > Is anyone surprised?  Is there a workaround?
>> > >
>> > > I have converted a friend's old virus-laden computer into an Ubuntu
>> > > 10.10
>> > > Desktop workstation.  She has a new Windows 7 laptop and I told her
>> > > that
>> > she
>> > > could just sit on the couch and print documents to a printer attached
>> > > to
>> > the
>> > > Ubuntu machine and retrieve them later or have a family member do it
>> > > (she
>> > is
>> > > developing MS and having mobility issues).  I told her that because it
>> > took
>> > > me less than ten seconds apiece to set up remote printing to
>> > Ubuntu-attached
>> > > printers for my netbook (running Ubuntu) and my Mom's laptop (running
>> > > Mac
>> > OS
>> > > X).  This, on the other hand, has been a nightmare.  I installed
>> > > SAMBA,
>> > and
>> > > when things wouldn't work I followed advice gleaned from Internet fora
>> > such
>> > > as modifying the smb.conf file, changing some registry keys on the
>> > Windows
>> > > machine, adding a password to the Windows account (she wasn't using
>> > > one,
>> > > since she has problems typing them because tremors associated with the
>> > MS).
>> > > Nothing has worked.  Most of the advice I have found online applies to
>> > > Windows XP, and the Windows 7-specific advice doesn't seem to work.
>> > >  Does
>> > > anyone have a successful Windows7 to Ubuntu network printing setup
>> > > going,
>> > or
>> > > is this just doomed to failure?
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>> > > Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:33:06 -0500
>> > > From: Jonathan Bartels <[email protected]>
>> > > To: Fort Wayne Linux Users Group <[email protected]>
>> > > Subject: Re: [fwlug] Windows won't print to an Ubuntu printer
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>> > > I can't offer specific advice, but a few comments:
>> > >  - In this day and age anything advising "registry tweaks" should be
>> > > avoided. Yes its Windows, but its matured to the point where registry
>> > > tweaks are rare
>> > >  - Focus on making the desktop expose itself in a way friendly to
>> > > Windows. Far easier to maintain and tweak the Linux server and let the
>> > > laptop be a plain jane Win7 machine
>> > >  - I have a Windows XP box printing to a printer on a Mac shared using
>> > > IPP. Should work in Linux just as well. Choose a common print protocol
>> > > SAMBA, IPP, etc. and expose that
>> > >
>> > > Is it failing in any sort of specific way? Any logs?
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Joseph Brennan <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > Is anyone surprised?? Is there a workaround?
>> > > >
>> > > > I have converted a friend's old virus-laden computer into an Ubuntu
>> > 10.10
>> > > > Desktop workstation.? She has a new Windows 7 laptop and I told her
>> > that she
>> > > > could just sit on the couch and print documents to a printer
>> > > > attached
>> > to the
>> > > > Ubuntu machine and retrieve them later or have a family member do it
>> > (she is
>> > > > developing MS and having mobility issues).? I told her that because
>> > > > it
>> > took
>> > > > me less than ten seconds apiece to set up remote printing to
>> > Ubuntu-attached
>> > > > printers for my netbook (running Ubuntu) and my Mom's laptop
>> > > > (running
>> > Mac OS
>> > > > X).? This, on the other hand, has been a nightmare.? I installed
>> > > > SAMBA,
>> > and
>> > > > when things wouldn't work I followed advice gleaned from Internet
>> > > > fora
>> > such
>> > > > as modifying the smb.conf file, changing some registry keys on the
>> > Windows
>> > > > machine, adding a password to the Windows account (she wasn't using
>> > one,
>> > > > since she has problems typing them because tremors associated with
>> > > > the
>> > MS).
>> > > > Nothing has worked.? Most of the advice I have found online applies
>> > > > to
>> > > > Windows XP, and the Windows 7-specific advice doesn't seem to work.?
>> > Does
>> > > > anyone have a successful Windows7 to Ubuntu network printing setup
>> > going, or
>> > > > is this just doomed to failure?
>> > > >
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>> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 21:37:33 -0500
>> From: Vern Ceder <[email protected]>
>> To: Fort Wayne Linux Users Group <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [fwlug] Fwlug Digest, Vol 61, Issue 2
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>> Hi Joe,
>>
>> The workgroup for the Win 7 machine and the printer sharing machine should
>> probably be the same. That could make it harder for the Windows machine to
>> see the other one. I assume all addresses are assigned by DHCP? That is,
>> they're all on the same subnet?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Vern
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Joseph Brennan <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Well, I'm back here again, and this time I brought my Ubuntu netbook
>> > (don't
>> > ask me why I neglected to bring it the first time!) and a borrowed Mac.
>> > Both were printing within a few seconds, but I still can't print from
>> > Windows 7.  I've tried "Browse for a printer."  The Windows 7 laptop
>> > sees
>> > only itself.  I've tried "Select a shared printer by name" and "Add a
>> > Printer using a TCP/IP address or hostname."  Both methods fail to
>> > discover
>> > the Ubuntu box and attached printer.
>> > Instead, I get this message:
>> > *
>> > Additional port information required
>> >
>> > The device is not found on the network.  Be sure that:
>> >
>> > 1. The network device is turned on.
>> > 2. The network is connected.
>> > 3. The device is properly configured.
>> > 4. The address on the previous page is correct.
>> >
>> > If you think the address is not correct, click Back to return to the
>> > previous page.  Then correct the address and perform another search on
>> > the
>> > network.  If you are sure the address is correct, select the device type
>> > below.
>> >
>> > Device type
>> > [Radio button] Standard [Drop down Menu: Generic card, followed by a
>> > host
>> > of other options]
>> > [Radio button] Custom
>> >
>> > *Well, we can checkmark 1-4.  The address is correct.  That's what I
>> > told
>> > Ubuntu and Mac and they found the printer no problem.  The dropdown menu
>> > has
>> > lots of options, mostly, it seems, for standalone printers with their
>> > own
>> > network cards, which is not what I'm doing here. Should I be using
>> > "Custom?"
>> > *  *I tried using the dropdown menu and selecting an option that went
>> > something like "Network card and parallel port," since the host computer
>> > is
>> > connected via a network card, and the printer is attached to it by a
>> > parallel port, but that didn't work.
>> >
>> > Am I going about adding the printer in Windows the wrong way?  Are there
>> > any tweaks I can do to the Samba configuration?  The only thing I can
>> > think
>> > of is that perhaps I should edit the smb.conf to say "Homegroup" instead
>> > of
>> > "Workgroup."  Might that help?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
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>> >>
>> >>   1.  Windows won't print to an Ubuntu printer (Kevin)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:39:54 -0500
>> >> From: Kevin <[email protected]>
>> >> To: [email protected]
>> >> Subject: [fwlug]  Windows won't print to an Ubuntu printer
>> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain
>> >>
>> >> I have a slackware server sharing a printer to windows xp, windows 7,
>> >> and Debian via SAMBA and CUPS. I didnt have to do anything special for
>> >> the 7 computer, just set up the printer. I would be happy to share my
>> >> SAMBA config or what ever you need.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 12:00 -0600, [email protected]
>> >> wrote:
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>> >> > Today's Topics:
>> >> >
>> >> >    1. Windows won't print to an Ubuntu printer (Joseph Brennan)
>> >> >    2. Re: Windows won't print to an Ubuntu printer (Jonathan Bartels)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >
>> >> > Message: 1
>> >> > Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:49:16 -0500
>> >> > From: Joseph Brennan <[email protected]>
>> >> > To: [email protected]
>> >> > Subject: [fwlug] Windows won't print to an Ubuntu printer
>> >> > Message-ID:
>> >> >
>> >> > <[email protected]<aanlktimqa%[email protected]>
>> >> >
>> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >> >
>> >> > Is anyone surprised?  Is there a workaround?
>> >> >
>> >> > I have converted a friend's old virus-laden computer into an Ubuntu
>> >> 10.10
>> >> > Desktop workstation.  She has a new Windows 7 laptop and I told her
>> >> > that
>> >> she
>> >> > could just sit on the couch and print documents to a printer attached
>> >> > to
>> >> the
>> >> > Ubuntu machine and retrieve them later or have a family member do it
>> >> (she is
>> >> > developing MS and having mobility issues).  I told her that because
>> >> > it
>> >> took
>> >> > me less than ten seconds apiece to set up remote printing to
>> >> Ubuntu-attached
>> >> > printers for my netbook (running Ubuntu) and my Mom's laptop (running
>> >> Mac OS
>> >> > X).  This, on the other hand, has been a nightmare.  I installed
>> >> > SAMBA,
>> >> and
>> >> > when things wouldn't work I followed advice gleaned from Internet
>> >> > fora
>> >> such
>> >> > as modifying the smb.conf file, changing some registry keys on the
>> >> Windows
>> >> > machine, adding a password to the Windows account (she wasn't using
>> >> > one,
>> >> > since she has problems typing them because tremors associated with
>> >> > the
>> >> MS).
>> >> > Nothing has worked.  Most of the advice I have found online applies
>> >> > to
>> >> > Windows XP, and the Windows 7-specific advice doesn't seem to work.
>> >>  Does
>> >> > anyone have a successful Windows7 to Ubuntu network printing setup
>> >> going, or
>> >> > is this just doomed to failure?
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>> >> > Message: 2
>> >> > Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 22:33:06 -0500
>> >> > From: Jonathan Bartels <[email protected]>
>> >> > To: Fort Wayne Linux Users Group <[email protected]>
>> >> > Subject: Re: [fwlug] Windows won't print to an Ubuntu printer
>> >> > Message-ID:
>> >> >       <[email protected]>
>> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> >> >
>> >> > I can't offer specific advice, but a few comments:
>> >> >  - In this day and age anything advising "registry tweaks" should be
>> >> > avoided. Yes its Windows, but its matured to the point where registry
>> >> > tweaks are rare
>> >> >  - Focus on making the desktop expose itself in a way friendly to
>> >> > Windows. Far easier to maintain and tweak the Linux server and let
>> >> > the
>> >> > laptop be a plain jane Win7 machine
>> >> >  - I have a Windows XP box printing to a printer on a Mac shared
>> >> > using
>> >> > IPP. Should work in Linux just as well. Choose a common print
>> >> > protocol
>> >> > SAMBA, IPP, etc. and expose that
>> >> >
>> >> > Is it failing in any sort of specific way? Any logs?
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Joseph Brennan <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > > Is anyone surprised?? Is there a workaround?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I have converted a friend's old virus-laden computer into an Ubuntu
>> >> 10.10
>> >> > > Desktop workstation.? She has a new Windows 7 laptop and I told her
>> >> that she
>> >> > > could just sit on the couch and print documents to a printer
>> >> > > attached
>> >> to the
>> >> > > Ubuntu machine and retrieve them later or have a family member do
>> >> > > it
>> >> (she is
>> >> > > developing MS and having mobility issues).? I told her that because
>> >> > > it
>> >> took
>> >> > > me less than ten seconds apiece to set up remote printing to
>> >> Ubuntu-attached
>> >> > > printers for my netbook (running Ubuntu) and my Mom's laptop
>> >> > > (running
>> >> Mac OS
>> >> > > X).? This, on the other hand, has been a nightmare.? I installed
>> >> SAMBA, and
>> >> > > when things wouldn't work I followed advice gleaned from Internet
>> >> > > fora
>> >> such
>> >> > > as modifying the smb.conf file, changing some registry keys on the
>> >> Windows
>> >> > > machine, adding a password to the Windows account (she wasn't using
>> >> one,
>> >> > > since she has problems typing them because tremors associated with
>> >> > > the
>> >> MS).
>> >> > > Nothing has worked.? Most of the advice I have found online applies
>> >> > > to
>> >> > > Windows XP, and the Windows 7-specific advice doesn't seem to
>> >> > > work.?
>> >> Does
>> >> > > anyone have a successful Windows7 to Ubuntu network printing setup
>> >> going, or
>> >> > > is this just doomed to failure?
>> >> > >
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