LOL, sorry.  That Roger Ebert thing was still floating around in my head
when i wrote that.  It's pretty amazing!

The whole point is, of course, that you aren't really replaceable.  In all
seriousness, I want to thank you two.  This group has been a great
resource.  I hardly said anything at the first few meetings because I was
just sitting there learning so much.  I only wish I had learned of it
sooner!



On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 5:21 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:53:28 -0500
> From: Joseph Brennan <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
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> Nothing to add, except that I could possibly set up Twidge to notify
> everyone before the meeting.
>
> Also, if people can't bear to attend meetings without Vern and Rob present,
> there is one possibility that has not been discussed.  Vern and Rob
> combined
> know a lot about robotics and programming, and the technology for
> artificial
> skin etc. is now pretty advanced: Roger Ebert is now sporting a passable
> silicon face and digitized voice.  So, I propose Robbot 2000 and Vernotron
> 2000: Creepy and horrendously expensive---but technologically feasible.
>
> The devices could connect wirelessly to a server that would constantly
> update them with data from new books, papers or talks, so that Vern and
> Rob's cyborg alter egos will still always be smarter than you, try as you
> might to catch up to them in knowledge (but you could ssh to them and
> adjust
> the settings for a "dumbed down" version if you're feeling depressed at how
> little you really know, or if you want to impress your date as you "stump
> the experts" by asking advanced questions while they are in basic mode).
> They would be powered by micro solar panels on their skin and a special
> fuel
> cell that converts Mad Anthony beer and Scooby snacks into electricity,
> expelling partially cooled byproducts from the mouth cavity in an odorless,
> invisible vapor form.  When not being used for LUG meetings and other
> events, they could be set to "Mr. Belvedere" mode to perform light
> housekeeping and cooking duties while entertaining LUG members with stories
> of their many travels, spoken in a charming Oxbridge accent.
>
> Maybe we could get a grant from the Linux Foundation?
>
>
>
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:31:48 -0500
> > From: Vern Ceder <[email protected]>
> > To: Fort Wayne Linux Users Group <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [fwlug] LUG meeting discussions
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> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > We had an pretty interesting meeting tonight - what follows is an
> > attempt to hit the high points:
> >
> > We had some good lightning talks - Christer on using Open Office, Wine
> > and MS Office reader to handle electronically commenting on student
> > papers, Sim?n on the pitfalls of Google Docs for student papers, Vern
> > on connecting to the same screen session from different machines
> > simultaneously, and Rob on (wait for it... ) Why Java Sucks. ;)
> >
> > The rest of evening was spent in discussing the future of the LUG. The
> > main issues are:
> >
> > 1. Vern will be leaving Canterbury (and probably Fort Wayne) by summer
> > to look for a job involving more Python and/or more Linux.
> > 2. Rob's work schedule means that he will often be, as he puts it,
> > "unreliable" about organizing meetings and sending social meeting
> > notices.
> > 3. Rob and Vern have been organizing meetings and presentations for
> > years and are:
> >     a. out of new ideas
> >     b. increasingly interested in programming topics that aren't so
> > interesting to the group at large
> >     c. more than ready to pass the torch
> >     d. all of the above
> >
> > So the group needs others to step forward and take over. If
> > presentations are going to continue, a small group is going to need to
> > take that over. Now is the time to get started, since we  have a few
> > months to transition and February's speaker is already arranged (Brian
> > Proffitt of Linux.com fame). As Rob pointed out, if 3 or 4 people take
> > it on, then each person only needs to find 2 or 3 meetings a year. So
> > please consider it.
> >
> > People will also need to volunteer presentations. Christer pointed out
> > that a 30 minute presentation with discussion is plenty for a meeting,
> > and everyone in group has enough knowledge to present on something.
> >
> > While much still needs to be figured out, some things were decided:
> > * we can continue meet at Canterbury - Sim?n will take care of the
> > requests for the space next year
> > * Christer will take over sending out social meeting announcements and
> > will maintain the Google calendar for the LUG which is viewable at:
> >
> >
> http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ml7s47893pbele4qicok255tb0%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/New_York
> > * Joe Brennan  will be taking over managing the wiki at some point in
> > the near future
> >
> > I think that's everything, but others can jump in with responses,
> > corrections, and suggestions.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Vern
> >
> >
> > --
> > Vern Ceder
> > [email protected], [email protected]
> > The Quick Python Book, 2nd Ed - http://bit.ly/bRsWDW
> >
> >
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> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 15:18:53 -0500
> From: Vern Ceder <[email protected]>
> To: Fort Wayne Linux Users Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [fwlug] Fwlug Digest, Vol 61, Issue 9
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> Let me indulge in a rare, but completely necessary "LOL"!
>
> Thank you for, as I like to say here at school, "treating this issue
> with the seriousness it deserves" ;)
>
> Vernotron
>
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Joseph Brennan <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Nothing to add, except that I could possibly set up Twidge to notify
> > everyone before the meeting.
> >
> > Also, if people can't bear to attend meetings without Vern and Rob
> present,
> > there is one possibility that has not been discussed.? Vern and Rob
> combined
> > know a lot about robotics and programming, and the technology for
> artificial
> > skin etc. is now pretty advanced: Roger Ebert is now sporting a passable
> > silicon face and digitized voice.? So, I propose Robbot 2000 and
> Vernotron
> > 2000: Creepy and horrendously expensive---but technologically feasible.
> >
> > The devices could connect wirelessly to a server that would constantly
> > update them with data from new books, papers or talks, so that Vern and
> > Rob's cyborg alter egos will still always be smarter than you, try as you
> > might to catch up to them in knowledge (but you could ssh to them and
> adjust
> > the settings for a "dumbed down" version if you're feeling depressed at
> how
> > little you really know, or if you want to impress your date as you "stump
> > the experts" by asking advanced questions while they are in basic mode).
> > They would be powered by micro solar panels on their skin and a special
> fuel
> > cell that converts Mad Anthony beer and Scooby snacks into electricity,
> > expelling partially cooled byproducts from the mouth cavity in an
> odorless,
> > invisible vapor form.? When not being used for LUG meetings and other
> > events, they could be set to "Mr. Belvedere" mode to perform light
> > housekeeping and cooking duties while entertaining LUG members with
> stories
> > of their many travels, spoken in a charming Oxbridge accent.
> >
> > Maybe we could get a grant from the Linux Foundation?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
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> >> ? 1. LUG meeting discussions (Vern Ceder)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:31:48 -0500
> >> From: Vern Ceder <[email protected]>
> >> To: Fort Wayne Linux Users Group <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: [fwlug] LUG meeting discussions
> >> Message-ID:
> >> ? ? ? 
> >> ?<[email protected]<pc%[email protected]>
> >
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> We had an pretty interesting meeting tonight - what follows is an
> >> attempt to hit the high points:
> >>
> >> We had some good lightning talks - Christer on using Open Office, Wine
> >> and MS Office reader to handle electronically commenting on student
> >> papers, Sim?n on the pitfalls of Google Docs for student papers, Vern
> >> on connecting to the same screen session from different machines
> >> simultaneously, and Rob on (wait for it... ) Why Java Sucks. ;)
> >>
> >> The rest of evening was spent in discussing the future of the LUG. The
> >> main issues are:
> >>
> >> 1. Vern will be leaving Canterbury (and probably Fort Wayne) by summer
> >> to look for a job involving more Python and/or more Linux.
> >> 2. Rob's work schedule means that he will often be, as he puts it,
> >> "unreliable" about organizing meetings and sending social meeting
> >> notices.
> >> 3. Rob and Vern have been organizing meetings and presentations for
> >> years and are:
> >> ? ? a. out of new ideas
> >> ? ? b. increasingly interested in programming topics that aren't so
> >> interesting to the group at large
> >> ? ? c. more than ready to pass the torch
> >> ? ? d. all of the above
> >>
> >> So the group needs others to step forward and take over. If
> >> presentations are going to continue, a small group is going to need to
> >> take that over. Now is the time to get started, since we ?have a few
> >> months to transition and February's speaker is already arranged (Brian
> >> Proffitt of Linux.com fame). As Rob pointed out, if 3 or 4 people take
> >> it on, then each person only needs to find 2 or 3 meetings a year. So
> >> please consider it.
> >>
> >> People will also need to volunteer presentations. Christer pointed out
> >> that a 30 minute presentation with discussion is plenty for a meeting,
> >> and everyone in group has enough knowledge to present on something.
> >>
> >> While much still needs to be figured out, some things were decided:
> >> * we can continue meet at Canterbury - Sim?n will take care of the
> >> requests for the space next year
> >> * Christer will take over sending out social meeting announcements and
> >> will maintain the Google calendar for the LUG which is viewable at:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=ml7s47893pbele4qicok255tb0%40group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/New_York
> >> * Joe Brennan ?will be taking over managing the wiki at some point in
> >> the near future
> >>
> >> I think that's everything, but others can jump in with responses,
> >> corrections, and suggestions.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Vern
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Vern Ceder
> >> [email protected], [email protected]
> >> The Quick Python Book, 2nd Ed - http://bit.ly/bRsWDW
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
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> Vern Ceder
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 17:17:49 -0500
> From: Rob Ludwick <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [fwlug] Robot plans
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> Hey!  Free robot plans online with a nifty python api.
>
> http://xkcd.com/413/
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 17:21:02 -0500
> From: Sim?n Ruiz <[email protected]>
> To: Fort Wayne Linux Users Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [fwlug] Robot plans
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> Who needs a soul? import antigravity!
>
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Rob Ludwick <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hey! ?Free robot plans online with a nifty python api.
> >
> > http://xkcd.com/413/
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