On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 09:43:00PM -0800, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: > On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 06:29:24AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 09:12:30PM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > > > > > Only vaguely. I'm a bit embarassed by them, actually. I think my > > > original twistyness has devolved to Obfuperl, and *that* has > > > contributed to people thinking that Perl is really inherently > > > obfuscated, which undermines what *I* would like to see how Perl is > > > perceived in the marketplace. So it may have backfired. Maybe > > > Obfuperl would have been come about some other way, but I'm sure my > > > JAPHs were a contributing factor. > > > > Frankly, I doubt that's true. There's a obfuscated C contest, but > > that doesn't make people think C is inherently obfuscated. > > Apples and Oranges--from where I sit at least. > > The obfuscated C contest is far less a part of the C culture compared > with JAPHs, Golf, etc in the Perl culture. That could have something > to do with the perception.
No, it's not part of the culture. At least not of the culture of all the people programming Perl. Only a handful of people write JAPHs, play golf or intentionally obfuscate Perl programs. Of the many Perl books on my bookshelves, none spends more than a few lines on Japhs, golf or obfuscated programs, and most of them don't mention them at all. The majority of the people programming Perl don't even know anything about Japhs, golf or obfuscated Perl. Don't consider the inbred circle of people on the various mailinglist, clpm, #perl, and perlmonks as the average Perl programmer. They aren't, they are the intimicy. And what they do on their mailinglists, newsgroups and websites remains hidden for most of the world. It's like saying ice-fishing is part of the American culture, just because a bunch of people in Alaska do that in winter. Abigail
