HiYa Stewie - Thanks for the info on your CF to IDE experiences. I'm
quite heartened about your successes.
Richard

On Aug 23, 7:55 pm, stewie <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think this has as much to do with the CF to IDE adapter as the card
> itself.
> As long as the adapter states that it works in a Mac and more
> importantly that it is bootable ( not all are ), then you should be
> good to go.
> It should also be CF1 and CFll compatible.
> See here...http://www.addonics.com/products/flash_memory_reader/ad44midecf.asp
> and note some of its features...
> Key Features
>
>     * Enable Compact Flash (CF) to be used like ordinary 2.5" IDE hard
> drive
>     * Compatible with CFI/II, MicroDrive™ *
>     * Choice of single slot or dual slots CF adapter
>     * Drive access LED
>     * IDE interface
>     * Mini 44-pin IDE male connector (2.5" IDE hard drive connector)
>     * Bootable
>     * Compatible** with DOS, Windows 3.1, NT4, 98SE, Me, 2000, XP,
> Vista, Mac or Linux
>     * Supports DMA and Ultra DMA modes (only on flash media card with
> such features)
>
> Now I bought a cheapo PCMCIA CF adapter off ebay a while back and also
> a PNY 8Gb card which I installed into my Wallstreet just to see if it
> would work as an emergency boot drive. I formatted it , partitioned
> into two and installed OS8 into one and OS9 into the other.
> Then I tried this in a 1400c, a 3400c, a Wallstreet and two Pismos -
> all via the PC slot.
> All booted - the 1400c and 3400c via OS8 with the others in OS9.
> Next I bought a no-names Chinese CF to IDE adapter ( off ebay again )
> and removed the hard drives in the above models and installed the CF-
> IDE gizmo in place of the hard drives.
> All booted from the same OS's as above.
> I might just have been lucky but in the ads the seller did state that
> the CF cards and the adapters were all bootable although the PC card
> didn't say either way whether it would work in a Mac or not , just
> that it was bootable under Windows.
> I wouldn't say that it was much of an improvement on say a good clean
> install of a Mac OS on a newish 5400 drive but start up times were a
> lot faster ( at least 50% ) and apps loaded probably 30% faster
> overall.
>
> Stewie
>
> On Aug 22, 12:15 pm, aussieshepsrock <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Terry,
> >   the info is NOT exactly encouraging - is it! I am able to go the
> > pcmcia card adapter route and booted successfully 'once' that way in
> > the past but it just didn't feel very 'elegant' at all.
>
> > My question now is:
>
> > Why was it refusing to boot up off the ide/cf card adapter?
>
> > there had to be a specific technical reason for it. I wonder what it
> > is or was?
>
> > Richard
>
> > On Aug 20, 10:14 pm, Powerbook G3 Store <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Tried doing that using a generic CF to IDE adapter I bought on eBay from
> > > Hong Kong.  I first saw these in Japan  so I bought one to experiment
> > > with...
>
> > > Here are the results:
>
> > > The adapter came with all the pins in it so I needed to figure out which
> > > side was up and down and bend the right pin away to fit in the female
> > > connector slot.  Then tried it using several older CF cards 60x, 133x from
> > > Ridata, Kingston and Adata.  They were various 2-8GB flash drives and NONE
> > > of these worked as a boot drive.  The OS did not recognize the adapter and
> > > card or allow it to be formatted, nothing,  I tried again using two other
> > > adapter cards, no dice.    I did further research and found only certain
> > > drive brands will work, but this is unconfirmed.  In a posting I saw it 
> > > said
> > > most Sandisk CF cards work so I need to get one and try it.
>
> > > A SUCCESSFUL workaround is buying a cardbus PCMCIA CF adapter and loading 
> > > OS
> > > 9 onto a CF card and using it as a boot drive.  These adapters are cheap
> > > less than $10.  This worked for me in several older machines including a
> > > Wallstreet, PB 1400c, 2400c and PB 3400c.  In fact the 1400 requires 32MB
> > > RAM to load OS 9 but will boot from the CF preloaded with OS 9 using 
> > > virtual
> > > ram.  Performance...there was some noticeable latency compared to a 
> > > regular
> > > hard drive but it does not render the OS un-usable its just slower
>
> > >  If you are willing to give up a cardbus slot this is a viable 
> > > alternative.
> > > I bought a CF to SD card adapter to try and it doesn't work either.  There
> > > are newer 16bit cardbus adapters that will take an SDHC card for about $20
> > > on eBay, might buy one and try that too.
> > > .
>
> > > TERRY
> > > Irvine CA 92612
>
> > > On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 7:31 AM, aussieshepsrock
> > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > Hello,
> > > >   I'm wondering if anyone has swapped their internal hard drive for a
> > > > compact flash card using one of those 2.5" ide to cf card adapters
> > > > they sell on ebay? I have a wallstreet g3 with 128mb, 60gig, os9.2 and
> > > > osx10.4 via xpostfacto. I'm mulling the idea of yanking my hard drive
> > > > out and going with compact flash card(s) for internal storage. It
> > > > ought to ameliorate the heat a bit, cut noise, extend battery life,
> > > > and speed things up quite a bit.
> > > >   My thoughts are that it would be almost impossible for the compact
> > > > flash card to not drastically beat the pokey 5400 rpm hard drive on
> > > > data throughput. I would hazard to guess that my data transfer speeds'
> > > > limiting factor would be whatever the capabilities of the ide system
> > > > in the wallstreet is and/or the capability of the bridgecard to
> > > > sustain throughput speeds.
> > > >   The downside seems minimal, but if someone has tried this and has
> > > > tips on pitfalls or travails they have encountered or the raving
> > > > successes they've had as well - please pass em along!
>
> > > > I'll try to document whatever I try to the group.
>
> > > > Richard
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