On May 1, 2010, at 7:28 PM, Ken Daggett wrote:


On 1 May 2010, at 18:01:47 PDT, John Carmonne wrote:

Hi All
One of my Wally's spec list on the bottom of the machine says

14.1TFT/  = Diagonal size of display

233MHz-512K/  = Processor speed and size of cache

32MB/ = amount of RAM as sold

2GB HD/  =  size of hard drive as sold

4MB video/ =  amount of video RAM

CD/  =  type of optical drive

Modem =  it has a modem

I'm wondering what the video spec means. = As it says, the amount of video RAM

Also I have a spare motherboard in my hand and I want to know how to tell the bus speed on one.

There are two different bus speeds on main logic boards. The later models were all 66MHz. I can't find a reference for the speed of the earlier ones, but it seems that it was some odd number like 72MHz. The key is that processors compatible with one type ARE NOT comptatible with the other type. You must use ID Codes to determine compatibility.

There are six different processor boards:

Microprocessor Board
Description             Service Part #          ID Code
233 MHz/0 cache          661-2035                  BKF
233 MHz/512K cache       661-2089               DW3, ERN
250 MHz/1 M cache        661-2036                  BKE
266 MHz/1 M cache        661-2097                  EE8
292 MHz/1 M cache        661-2021                  BAD
300 MHz/1 M cache        661-2088                  DW4

Logic board identification:

Quoted from a repair manual:

The ID codes listed below can be found within the serial
numbers that are attached to the circuit boards. They are
not part of the whole unit serial number that is attached to
the bottom of the PowerBook.

• I/O Logic Board: This serial number label is viewable
from the opening for the PC Card slots. You don’t need to
disassemble the PowerBook. Gently push in the PC Card
slot doors and look inside the opening. You should see the
serial number/bar code label. You may need to use a
small flashlight to see the lettering on the label.

The ID codes are printed in one of two ways:
– Either the next-to-last three characters in the serial
number. For example, if the serial number is
*CK8xxxxxyyyx* then the ID code would be “yyy”.
– Or within the last 5 characters of the serial number.
For example, if the serial number is
*KC8xxxxxxyyyxx* then the ID code would be “yyy”.
This type of serial number label has Singapore printed
directly after the serial number.

I/O Logic Board
Description             Service Part#          ID Code
2 MB SGRAM, no TV out    661-2058             BKG, DGK, DFL
2 MB SGRAM, TV out       661-2094                DW6

Microprocessor and I/O Logic Board Compatibility

I/O logic boards and microprocessor boards shipped in early PowerBook G3 Series computers are not compatible with those shipped later and should not
be used together. Refer to the chart below to check compatibility when
replacing these parts.

Table 1: Microprocessor—I/O Logic Board Compatibility Chart

             661-2019 661-2058 661-2087 661-2094
661-2021        yes     yes       no      yes
661-2035        yes     yes       no      yes
661-2036        yes     yes       no      yes
661-2088         no      no      yes       no
661-2089         no      no      yes       no
661-2097         no      no      yes       no


Hope this helps more than it confuses!

This does make some sense because I got a 300 Mother board and processor that I put in one of my Wally 233s, and I have another Wally that is a 233 also but it has a 13" display so I put the 233 daughter card in it that I took out of the 14" machine and it does some strange stuff like funny video/display problems. So this tells me that to upgrade the 13" I need to install the extra PDQ mother board I have and then I can get another 300 daughter card for it.? The only # I can find on my extra processor card is 233 630-2793 CF A92132311 The serial # on the logic board I have extra is QY9030H2DW701 4MPDQ SUV The serial # on my 13" Wally is CK82701QCWH Logic# is CK8262SC8988 The serial # on my 14.1" Wally is QT90516UE6A Logic# is QY9030H2DW701 4MPDQ SUV


JOHN CARMONNE
Yorba Linda USA
From TiBook 800




--
You received this message because you are a member of G-Books, a group for 
those using G3 iBooks and PowerBooks (we run a separate list for G4 'Books).
The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html and our netiquette 
guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
To post to this group, send email to [email protected]
To leave this group, send email to [email protected]
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g-books

Support for older Macs: http://lowendmac.com/services/

Reply via email to