on 10/23/02 7:10 AM, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> i found a "Family PC" magazine, which had a little article about Cocoa,
>> and they were talking about how its a great new programming
>> environment, thats simple enough for kids to learn (it appeared to be a
>> graphical environment?)
>> this magazine was published in 97 iirc.... os10 wasnt around then, and
>> they were demoing it on whatever the current system was then (this was
>> around the time of clones)
>> it looked pretty interesting...but doesnt appear to have anything to do
>> with unix.
> 
> It's the best development environment out there, period. And I've tried
> many, including MS Visual Studio, CodeWarrior Mac/Windows, etc.

Oooops. The "Cocoa" that the original poster is talking about is an older
product, produced by Apple for children. It is a very simple object-based
environment. It was literally drag-and-drop, and also basically operated
like creating a flow chart, only in this case, the flow charts were the
program. You could create stand-alone apps, but they also ran within Cocoa.
It was like a super-weak color Hypercard. My son likes to play with it, but
really wants something more real, but I haven't decided if _I_ want him
coding, or what environment to get him started in. He's 12. (And my brother
wrote his own version of Qbert on a Vic20 in Basic when he was 12.) :-)
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