are you kidding me??

THE INTERNET IS A NETWORK. A LARGE NETWORK OF NETWORKS.

christ all mighty. this reaffirms my previous comments of the 
*INCREDIBLE* amount of unknowledgeable spew on this list.

yes. websites /are/ on bandwidth limits. its how web hosts make their 
money. sending data from one computer to another computer, via tcp/ip 
protocols (even smtp) is not the same as downloading static data from an 
http server. yes, it may be using their same bandwidth, but again, to 
sent plain text data to a mail server is probably 8-10k at best. not an 
issue. i run a web host myself, and am close friends with someone who 
runs one of the major web design/hosting firms in this area (has 
international clients, as well as all the main businesses around this 
area) i understand how bandwidth quotas work. its an email list. its 
what its here for. to transmit text through a mail server, to another 
mail server. not to be rude, but honestly do you think i give a damn 
about someone's bandwidth from a mailing list? he set the list up, to 
receive and transmit. thats what it does, and is doing. if he didnt want 
this to occur, would the list continue? no.
hell, look at the bottom of every message transmitted. i can see 7 lines 
of text that to me could be replaced with one.
internet newbie? hah....i do more with the internet than email and http. 
definitely not a "newbie" - ive got years of experience under my belt, 
including work experience.
sorry, i think i might have cost someone a few cents for sending such a 
large message. guess i should cut this short.
(btw, yeah, i dont care how much i cut and pasted - if the owner has a 
problem with the amount of text im transmitting on the list that he set 
up, with full knowledge of what running a mail server entails, i'll 
*gladly* paypal him .05c that my overage might have caused.)

incredible.


On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 09:36  PM, B.J. Major wrote:

>> the ignorance amazes me.
>>
>> you sir, need to read a book about how networks work.
>
> No, I don't.  "Networks" are not the same thing as "the internet" and I
> do know the difference.  Notice that I quoted *exactly* what I needed to
> in order to reply to your message.  However, you did exactly what 
> posters
> should not do in quoting not only my entire message back again to the
> list, but you also included "trash" by way of the end part of the 
> message
> which talks about the G Book list sponsorship.
>
>> you make it sound like there is a bandwidth shortage or
>> something....like we're going to be limited to the amount of data
>> transfer available!
>
> It might surprise you to know that on websites there ARE bandwidth
> limitations.  And if you go over them, you have to pay extra if you're
> the webmaster hosting the site.  To ignore bandwidth issues even on a
> mailing list like this is to be truly rude and inconsiderate of others.
> If all of this comes as news to you, you truly must be an internet 
> newbie.
>
> And to others on this list who have seen fit to grumble and growl about
> how this particular subject is horribly off topic, may I politely and
> kindly remind you that this IS an email list, afterall.  And that while
> they're not the main subject of the list - things like long sig files
> that affect the list and everyone's email load aren't beyond the scope 
> of
> this list.
>
> --bj
> http://www.bjbear71.com/


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