rag bag wrote: >i can't say i'm interested, especially at that price: i could sell my >pismo and pick up a used ti-book for more or less the same total ....
Well, yeah, I'd say it's worth it only if you prefer the Pismo to the newer 'Books. Which I do, for various reasons. > > Now that sounds really interesting. The Pismo G4 upgrade is still >> only 500MHz (and, so I hear, will likely never be faster), so its > >what IS the deal here? why isn't a faster chip being offered? I've wondered about this myself. According to Charles Moore at the link I included, "I assume that reports that no Pismo G4 upgrades faster than 500 MHz will be possible due to pin spacing on the faster G4 chips were accurate." >don't forget that OS X runs much better on a G4, and the graphics >rendering is altivec optimised. Well, from what I've read I'd say it's more like OS X runs *somewhat* better on a G4. But it also seems to run well enough on G3. So long as the iBooks are G3--and it appears they may be for some time still--Apple is not likely to radically G4-ize OS X. So the question is, which would offer better performance: 500MHz G4 or 800MHz G3? Like the quote from PowerLogix said, depends on what you use most. BTW, I didn't really mean to start another flame war over personal preferences in laptop design. Why is it that people become so quickly harsh and abusive in online communication? Over "issues" that don't really matter at all? It's fine with me if other folks love their TiBooks; I just don't particularly care for them. But nor do I think that somebody who likes the TiBook is by that token alone some kind of subhuman. It's just a matter of taste, after all. For me, the TiBook does look classy from a distance, and I know it turns heads, but I find them uncomfortable to use. Same with the iceBook, though on other points I find it somewhat more attractive. I'm usually sitting at a desk, with the heel of my hand resting on its surface while my index finger and thumb are working with the trackpad; the sharply squared edges on the current 'Books dig into my palm in that position, which is uncomfortable. That's a physical fact, which has nothing to do with whether I'm "up with" current fashion. Though in fact I'm not, never have been, at least not on purpose. Sometimes I move with the herd, sometimes not, but always for my own reasons. Obi-Wan wrote: >Your call for rounded edges is an outdated and even >"Retro" design ideal and that has been passed over in the last decade in >favor of sharper edges and newer appearances. No one wants a laptop that >looks like it was designed in the 80's (well, maybe a few people do). >I applaud Apple for moving *forward* with their design ideas instead of >muddling around with designs that have been "done to death." The idea that something that is more than a couple of years old is therefore totally invalid by any standard of judgment makes no sense to me at all. The Buddha lived 2500 years ago, but I find everything he said is as true today as it was then. My personal preferences are not a "retro design ideal"; they're just what I like. It's not an ideology, just a preference. I don't care when something was designed, or what ephemeral phase of fashion it represents; I only care if its design pleases me and works for me. Some things I like are new, some are old, some very old. Rounded edges are comfortable; sharp edges are not, and seem to me an emphasis of "stylish" appearance over real functionality. Style over substance. Which is, true, what sells. Actually, the Pismo PowerBook seems to me to be a design *perfected*--as much as anything is in the computer world. They stayed with the design that began with the WallStreet long enough to get most of the flaws worked out. I'm increasingly frustrated with the computer industry's never *finishing* anything. Everything they put out is about 80% done (or less, sometimes much less), but rather than complete what they started, they just go on to the next *new* thing, which will also be released when about 80% done ... and so on, apparently ad infinitum. It's rather like the attention span of a small child. Monkey-mind on steroids. I don't need to have something *new* every fine minutes to keep my interest; I want something that *works* without constant troubleshooting and "bug fixes" that themselves invariably introduce new bugs. As for TiBook problems, I haven't owned one myself, of course, but I note that the TiBook report keeps going on and on at MacInTouch. Which isn't true of the iceBook report. Without investigating the details (other than chipping paint, AirPort reception, fragile/expensive hinges that have become famous) that leaves me with a clear impression, that the somewhat experimental, pushing-the-envelope design hasn't entirely worked out. One of these days the TiBook also will be declared "old" by the Fashion Police; I've already read hints of this in the computer press by writers to whom anything that hasn't substantially changed for all of two years is ripe for total replacement for that reason alone, regardless of any other consideration. (Can't help but wonder how such people manage their personal relationships. "You're last year's model; get out of my life!") Then the "forward-looking" will be dismissing TiBook lovers as hopelessly old-fashioned. Well, you can come hang out with us other used-up old fogies while the teenagers jeer at you. Andrew Main -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... 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