I did not cry about censorship, I merely stated the fact that when I posted about the problem it was deleted and I was sent the posted email. You have taken my comments out of context and exaggerated them. I completely understand the need for Apple to preserve a company image, and I have no intention of running them down, on the contrary I sing their praises every opportunity I get.
The rules are clear, being a member, and moderator, of many forums, I know what is and is not acceptable for discussion. I did not start a complaint, I was completely professional in asking for people's opinions on the speed, how to improve it, and was it possibly just my machine with a fault. The fact that Apple got very defensive about this is out of my hands, however not listening to the consumers is a self-defeating prophecy, once again I draw your attention to the MDD fans and the Airport deaths. Apple clearly states the discussion boards are there for users to post their problems, they have become a massive part of customer support. After paying $1800 for this machine, and approximately $10,000 in the last two years on Apple hardware and software, and being repeatedly told about the forums, I did not see an issue in posting an OBSERVATION.
Finally apologies to the list nanny, while typing this I received the request to cease discussion. I understand this has now gone off-topic, but my original reply to Scott's message was completely on topic, and I do not appreciate having judgments made abut me from that reply.
Matt
On Friday, June 6, 2003, at 06:08 pm, Todd Ruch wrote:
The "threatening" email was really not that threatening at all, they simply asked you to cease and desist posting of your what I can only imagine were negative emails on their company discussion boards. Apple has not said they are going to come break down your doors and haul you off to jail, they simply stated you would be barred from posting for a period of time on THEIR servers. I thought that the email was fairly professional. They have not barred you from posting emails on other lists (although I am sure those lists also have rules). Your point about the product may be right on, however your cries of censorship I believe are a bit off. The rules of those boards are very clear for anyone who wants to post. I completely agree with Mr Reeder.
Todd
On Friday, June 6, 2003, at 09:26 AM, Dennis Reeder wrote:
I initially found it a bit disturbing hearing that Apple would not permit unhindered discussion of their products. However, on reflection, the list belongs to Apple. Imagine a bulletin board inside an Apple store where consumers can post messages. Why should Apple (as a huge profitable powerful corporation) allow any discussion to appear on that bulletin board that didn't enhance their image and contribute to their bottom line? This is definitely not Russia 1948! In the former USSR a capitalist firm such as Apple would not be permitted to exist, not permitted to innovate, not permitted to compete nor would individuals be permitted any opportunity to criticize an industry. For crying out loud you are complaining about a corporations right to manage its image. You don't like it tough. Start your own company. Your freedom of speech has not be infringed by an agency of the United States government. Cries of censorship are out of line. You are absolutely free to discuss/praise/criticize Apple, Microsoft, Ford Motor Company and Joe's Carryout Store on your own list. Or this list. Or your very own newspaper or e'zine. Why do you want to abridge Apple's freedom to operate their business as they see fit? Your right to free speech and assembly is guaranteed by the United States Consitution not Apples papers of incorporation. Look, I love my Mac but I have no illusions about Apple as a corporation. They want to make a profit, as big a profit as possible. Good for them. I wish them all the success in the world. Caveat emptor.
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