Look, people do have problems with Apple products, I do have problems with Apple products. They have made crappy software as well as great software, look at the past versions of iCal ... wow ... crap.

But honestly the things you say and the way you say em you sound like a troll. A person just trying to get people arguing. I used to argue these battles, a lot. But I have stopped and I have started just branding them what they are trolls - attempts to start fights as I see em. It has to do with how harshly you condemn the platform. I have had issues but I am satisfied for the most part with how they have been resolved. So I keep buying Apple. You sound like you are convinced that Apple is all bad, was good, now bad, yet you profess being such a Mac user. This has become more prevalent since Mac OS X, you are right there.

Fact is there has never been an OS change like this. Mac OS only really has three versions. System 6 [1-6.x], System 7 [7-9.2.2], and Mac OS X. And Mac OS X is not only a new OS like System 7 was to 6, its a completely new platform.

I have been an Apple user since 1983 or so. I have Macs, I have NeXT hardware, I have Newtons, I have Linux PCs [one even has Windows on it too]. I am proud to associate myself with Apple because of the higher standard they seek. They are far from faultless ...

An example of poor things they have done - iPods, why are 1st and 2nd generation not software upgradable to the new features like smart playlists. I have access to their tech databases, there is no technical reason not to. That is poor.

But how you are dumping on them and condemning me for saying that your message is little more than starting a fight because I am obviously a mindless follower of Apple. Give me a break.

David

Right ... troll.

David

Troll ?. You know this is the same standard stupid lame answer to anyone who just blindly says Apple or leave it. The Oxies lovers can not believe that there have been problems with this switch. I have bought Apple products from 1985 on and own more then I can count. I have supported the software makers who develop the products that Apple has to have consumers buy to keep Apple selling hardware, btw times 4, kids in school and I do not cheat. Now I go down the hall with thousands of dollars of software and think all this is not compatable/well sort of. I already have bought OSX from the start and replaced most big items, just to help Apple along and try to keep my kids up on the latest.
I am not sure how long you have used Apple products but I can say from my experience this has been the worst hardware OS change I can remember. Also the worst split in Apple users, this is good for Apple... this is the way to keep the customers you have stay happy and bring more in?.
I never hesitated to buy new or used A site and I just can not push purchase.......and I am the only one right.
BTW check the Apple boards on the ibook screens, those people are very happy. As far as my experience with Apple Care well I would be happy to give you Ms. Wells public phone number at Apple, she is in charge of Apple Care world wide, she is right next door to Steve and you can ask her about the damage done to the battery and power cord of my Pismo.
A interesting article appeared in Tech Tails from Small Dog computers, of course this does not mean the whole line is crap, but a fan and noise that sounds like this. I am sure it has been fixed?.
I think Apple is heading in the right direction, but the road has been really bumpy, many loyal Apple customers are not happy and they are just not moving up. Just the fact that discussions on the pros and cons of Apple among the people who use and like Apple products turns into mud says it all.
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