on 29/05/04 02:14, Tom Burke at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On 28 May 2004, at 20:30, G-Books wrote:
>> 
>> On 28/05/04 09:35, "Tom Burke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Last night my daughter's Lombard appeared to give up the ghost. It
>>> just
>>> stopped dead - no sign of life at all - and would not restart - no
>>> chimes. Plus, when I lifted off the keyboard there was a smell of
>>> electrical burning.
>>> 
>>> Today it'll power up, but it won't boot - I just get the flashing
>>> folder / question mark icon. I have done the following things:- a)
>>> reset the pram; b) reset the nvram, having booted into open firmware;
>>> c) reset the PMU. I've also tried using Disk Utility via an
>>> installation disk, but the only disk that Disk Utility shows is the
>>> installation CD; it can't see the installed HD either.
>>> 
>>> I suspect that the Lombard is dead, but I was just wondering if anyone
>>> could diagnose what the fault might be. Last night I was convinced it
>>> must be a power issue, today the power side of things appears to be OK
>>> and the issue seems to be with the HDD.
>>> 
>>> System is a 333Mhz Lombard, 256 Mb Ram, OS X 10.2.8, and a Toshiba 20
>>> Gb HD.
>> 
>> I'm confused. You're saying it's dead bu then, later, that the Disk
>> Utility
>> from the installation CD sees only the installation CD. So, it's not
>> completely dead, is it? If you can boot from a system or installation
>> CD,
>> and if Disk Utility can't see the internal hard drive, then it seems
>> pretty
>> clear that the internal drive is toasted, hence the smell...
>> 
>> -Laurent.
> 
> If that was all, yes. But Thursday night, immediately after it crashed,
> the observed problem was that it wouldn't power up - no chimes, no grey
> screen, no icons, no sign of life at all. At that time, therefore, my
> assumption was that it must be the power side. Friday morning, without
> doing anything in the meantime, I idly tried it 'one more time', and it
> chimed and powered up, as far as the screen with the question mark /
> folder. So today, the observed problem seems not to be with the power
> at all but with the disk. That's what's confusing me - how can the
> symptoms & observed behaviour have changed?

There is something loose in it, or some broken solders that are creating
problems only when the heat increases. That's a tough problem to
troubleshoot. I'm not sure but does the Lombard have a processor
daughterboard snapped on the motherboard? If so, that would be the first
thing I would try to fix, e.g. removing the daughterboard and putting it
back while making sure it is solidly in place.

Then, there is something with the power. A connector or maybe an hairline
crack in the AC/sound board or something like that. Have you tried a
different adapter?

-Laurent.
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