Some of the pertinent background follows. I decided to try to re-install without spending money yet. So I tried doing it with only one of the RAM sticks installed in the bottom. I erased and formatted the drive with the Panther CD. I am thinking maybe I don't need 9 anymore on this machine. The install did not complete citing "errors" during the install. BTW the HD checked out "appears to be OK" after the format. Before it was reporting "hash table full" whatever that means. So I took out that stick and put in the other stick and it appears so far that I have a successful install of Panther. Everything that did not work before now works. I need more time to really test it all but so far it looks good. Can I now put back the offending RAM stick in the available top slot? I have heard that it is the installer that is finicky about the RAM, not the installed OS. So for now it looks like I can get by on this hard drive for a while more. Both the RAM sticks are 256. I hate to tell you all this but the one that appears to be bad has OWC sticker on it. The PNY one that I bought off the rack at Circuit City is the one in there now that accepted the install.
Greg


On Jul 1, 2004, at 10:27 AM, Gregory Cortelyou wrote:


On Jul 1, 2004, at 10:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Greg, since we have don't have lots of Pismo owners complaining about
problems with Panther we have to assume the problem is your computer. Two
things about your issue stick out: 1) you have no trouble with Jaguar but 2)
do have trouble with Panther and did have from the very beginning
apparently, not just with the most recent update.


Had you reported problems getting back to 10.2.8 I'd have immediately jumped
on the hard drive. But since you didn't I'm pushing the drive down to
suspect number 2 and bumping RAM up to suspect number 1. When we were doing
our Panther upgrades we had a couple computers that refused to upgrade - but
had been find with Jaguar. In one case we basically 'lucked' into a hard
drive problem we'd been unaware of - but this computer refused the downgrade
to Jaguar, unlike yours. For the others, we swapped RAM and found that to be
the problem.


Even so, I'm not confident enough to just say "Order more memory!" so I hope
you have a friend whose computer has compatible RAM or a friendly Mac dealer
who will quickly check out the RAM for you. Note: I had my own RAM problems
when I bought an AlBook. The first stick of 512 was obviously bad. The
second seemed fine until I tried to upgrade to Panther. That stick tested
out ok using Apple's hardware test CD but was obviously the cause of the
problem.


david

My first impulse told me that the RAM was the problem. I am willing to buy new sticks but I would love to have some recommendations of brands that are known to work well with this RAM finicky system. Swapping out the RAM will still necessitate a reformat I am presuming. I am getting tired of doing it but I guess I will have no choice. I may just upgrade the hard drive at the same time and make it all fresh and new.
Greg



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