Dear G-Books List and Nick,
        My replies to Nick appear within his questions.

At 3:30 PM -0400 5/25/05, G-Books wrote:
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 21:44:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nick Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Burning mad, Firewire problem
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Are you following the directions properly from Apple?  Are you wanting to
move files from the Pismo to the Qs?  The order should be QS on.  Shut down
PB.  Connect firewire cable.  Start the PB while holding down the 'T' key.
The PB should appear as a drive to the QS.  Then you could drag any files
from the PB to the QS.

Yes, I'm following the KB instructions. I'm trying to create clone of the Pismo drive in a partition on the QS. Note: that dragging files is not the way to produce a backup since neither invisibles or all system files would be copied. That's why under panther I tried the Disk Utility which can implement a "restore". The other apps are supposed to be able to copy everything, although Carbon Copy Cloner is reported sometimes not work from a firewire target disk according to the developer's website.

Do you have a non US keylayout?  Any key modifiers?  Is the keyboard on the
Qs on a hub?  Are the Firewire ports on both machines good?  Is the cable
good?  I've only done this once and it worked for me, so I'm throwing out
ideas.

The QS's keyboard is a Matias tactilepro USB connected directly to the QS's usb port. No hub. This is standard US layout. No modifiers or keyboard utility software used. Firewire ports tested with external Firewire/USB external drive, both read and write tests positive. Thanks for this possible troubleshooting list. Another lista suggested going direction by mounting the QS on the Pismo as a FTD. I'll try that unless anyone else has some thoughts. I was trying to keep it simple and avoid buying another external drive big enough to backup to, since my current one is the Pismo's replaced original hard drive.
Thanks for the help.
Brent

.nick

On Tue, 24 May 2005, Brent Baeslack wrote:

I'm hoping that the combined knowledge of the list can end my firewire torture.
 I should be able to connect my  PISMO 400 mhz 768 MB OS 10.3 in
 firewire target disk (FTD) mode to a Quicksilver 733 mhz 640 MB  OS
 10.3 but every time I try to access the FTD for backup purposes it
 freezes. I installed a second internal 120GB hard drive and created a
 partition to backup to.  What I have experienced is stalls and
 freezes with Disk Utility application, Carbon Copy Cloner, and Data
 Backup.

 To try and recover from these firewire freezes I run Applejack and
 then Tech Tool Pro 4 to repair the disks.

 Is there a preference I should trash to stop this pattern?

 Is this some kind of firewire firmware compatability problem between
 the Quicksilver & Pismo?

 I'm trying to backup, which is a good thing, but buying an external
 drive means laying out more money.

 Ideas, suggestions, and /or free beer appreciated.
 --
 Cheers,
 Brent


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