Well, there are some clues if you read enough of the fine print. I too (as a poorly paid professor of electrical engineering in a Canadian university and an Apple shareholder) would be rather annoyed if Apple actually sold x86 Macs. But there is a more interesting possibility.

Back when DEC folded the Alpha project (which was probably the best processor design around at the time), all 300 of the engineering staff from DEC went to work for Intel. They are currently working on a new chip at Intel that will, if the press is correct, be shipping sometime in 2007. It will not be an x86 family chip, and will have tossed all of the legacy support mechanisms that the x86 family carries. If it's something in the same class as the Alpha then it could really be good for the Mac.

I dislike x86 architecture too (having written assembler for it I know all too well how ugly it is), but the fact is that IBM wasn't willing to invest in the future of PowerPC for Apple. I suspect that someone at IBM just pissed Steve Jobs off one too many times, and that's the end of it. I'm not selling my Apple stock. I'm still going to buy a new 15" PowerBook this year, and I'm taking a wait and see attitude concerning what's going to happen two years out.

Jobs didn't do this for profit, he did it for long-term viability. If IBM had been able to provide the CPU development, he'd have stuck with the PowerPC platform.

So we can all wear a black arm band for a week and then get on with work. But I'm betting that the chip you see in the Mac in 2007 is not an x86 processor, but a new one, and one developed by those 300 folks they got from DEC.

- web


At 10:53 AM -0500 6/12/05, Brian wrote:
Dude, chill
Virus vulnerability is an OS problem, not a chip problem.
Second, no one has said, so far as I know, that the intel chips to be used will be x86 chips, just that they will be intel. I forget who pointed that out, but it was a very good point. If you don't care about the newest fastest computer than stick with your lowend mac. It will still be supported for years. As far as the comment about "PeeCee users are too stupid for the Mac community ANYWAY," that's totally uncalled for. No need to be insulting the masses for no reason. Rash statements like that are one reason that PC users have given me for not liking the mac. They don't like "elitest mac users." It's happening, and it needs to happen. You are right, it's a business/politics thing and not so much a development
thing, but I don't think it's a greed thing either.
In any event, it's all academic anyway. It's happening, you can't stop it. Best to just roll with it.
Brian

On Jun 12, 2005, at 8:33 AM, Zoltan Batiz wrote:

Ok, I've watched the keynote address, read all the articles. I still think Jobs is full of it. I can't believe that he's decided to switch to Intel. This has me really nervous. Intel processors, despite the crappy OS that Microsnot tries to make for it, are very unstable in the virus sense. I am concerned that "when" Intel based Macs start rolling out in '06 they are gonna be sitting ducks just waiting for the Intel-versed hacker to start shooting. I AM NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO ANY OF YOU WHO ARE EXCITED BY THIS. THIS IS THE MOST DISTURBING THING I'VE HEARD SINCE THE FALL OF AMIGA. I feel like I'm being let down in the computer industry once again. This move will eventually make all PowerPC Macs obsolete, just like the 68000 Mac's. . .so much for worrying about the G3's life; heck now the G5 is going to be phased out. I am so tired of everyone trying to get somewhere in such a rush. WHO CARES IF POWERPC IS SLOWER THAN CRAPTEL!! I don't! And millions of other Mac users don't! Most PeeCee users are too stupid for the Mac community ANYWAY. I need to stop now. . .I'm so pissed I can barely type. This is what happens when I go up to Arrowhead for a few months on vacation. . .and come back to this. I have one phrase for Jobs: "Greedy Bastard".


Zoltan
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