uh, it's actually much worse than that. the copy of 6.2 i downloaded, from netscape, includes some nice spyware. first of all, overtime you start it up it contacts netscape for permission to run, so they can remotely disable it if they decide they don't like you or that version. netscape actually sends your machine allot of data, way too much in my opinion to just be a "key". much, much worse than that, it ignores the dns server your isp provides, and uses one that claims to be associated with sandia national labs, but if you go to that ip it's full of advertising for spyware (and the ip isn't close to that for sandia, and whois says it isn't sandia), and is most likely tracking your surfing habits and selling the information to advertisers and others, and likely spammers. i've got a fire wall, and observed this activity, without the firewall i wouldn't have know. this is also why 6.2 is "slow" on some dialup lines, using a remote dns server slows things down.
re: the service manual debacle, i think apples concerns are 1: legal concern, since under insane us law if you zap yourself silly or kill all the data on machines at work they could be sued, even if you "stole" the manual. 2: the usual insane corporate guarding of "secrets", which is absurd, the service manuals have very little useful information (for competitors) , mostly how to open the case etc., none of which is "proprietary" in nature, and obviously any one could reverse engineer an se/30 if there were actually an economic incentive, but there isn't. frankly, a logical, intelligent person would realize that even the source code for the roms of such older machines could be made available without hurting apple, it contains no "secrets" relevant to g4 machines, or even the g3 machines. aggressive guarding of obsolete secrets is a gross waste of corporate resources, and discourages the type of experimentation that leads to exceptional engineers being available to companies like apple (i played with all kinds of things as a kid). it's corporate paranoia, just like those sites that don't let you list directories, but at the same time you can mirror the whole thing with interarchy (i've done this before to collect manuals, manuals that are available to the public), this is information that you can download anyway, it's just usually painful, but it's not painful to let interarchy run while you sleep and then you have the manuals and don't have to go through a poorly designed web site just to get publicly available information. even more stupid, i've ordered cd's from semiconductor makers before, and was disgusted to see they were nothing but a mirror of the website, complete with random names for pdf files rather than human usable names, again forcing you to go through silly html in a browser rather than just finding and opening the pdf file your after, does anyone think turning a file name into gibberish while leaving the contents alone would slow down corporate espionage? (they index just fine on my machine...) can you say STUPID? the stupid things people do to make themselves more secure that don't are a constant irritation, and a constant proof of the incompetence of many of the people who make the decisions, and the vendors that cater to them, providing a false sense of security for the customer and a trivial way for them to make more money, sounds like fraud to me. by the way, swabbing shoes for explosives just slows down lines, it wouldn't stop a shoe bomber, as long as they were smart enough to clean and repolish their shoe bombs, but it will catch people who've stepped in doggy doo (most "doo" can infact be used as a "low" explosive, ranchers have been using cow pies to blast boulders for years) or gotten any number of common things on their shoes. the fact of the matter is that several common household products can be used to make explosives, and many things used in small amounts in other products could be and will leave "suspicious" residue on shoes. it's a waste of money, it's window dressing, the emperor has no clothes. for that matter, most plastic explosives wouldn't be detected if they were home made, commercial plastic explosives (at least in the u.s.) are required to have additives to make them still smell like explosives, most terrorist make their own explosives and usually don't add things just to make them still smell like explosives, un-oderized plastic explosives are very hard to "sniff" out. then again, if people aren't properly trained to watch an x-ray screen do you really think they are properly trained to detect explosives by chemical analysis? i wish we'd spend money on the things that really would help, rather than giving the public a placebo that most see through anyway. sorry for the o.t., but it illustrates what poor thinking about security does, it waste money and provides little or no more security to the "client", who is often easy to fool, while inconveniencing the end customer (and a false sense of security is very dangerous). don't even get me started on the stupid luggage bomb screening machines that cost obscene amounts and aren't very specific, even with a well trained, well rested employee paid enough to care.(the same people who don't see grotesquely obvious bombs on xray) Ryan Coleman wrote: > > Wow. 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