On Tuesday, June 25, 2002, at 01:23 , Eric D. wrote:
> on 24/6/02 20:02, Eagle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Today I got my Gossamer tower and -- very excited -- ran home to 
>> install
>> OS X Server v1.2 (Rhapsody) on it.  Part of the install process sets 
>> the
>> system to boot from CD, which I _can_ manually do with the 'C' key
>> trick, but it doesn't work automatically.
>>
>> What happens is I get a hung system with the checkerboard screen, mouse
>> in the top left corner.  Of course, this would be a normal part of the
>> bootup, just before the Happy Mac, but it doesn't proceed and the mouse
>> is unresponsive; it's like the system is locked up.  From this point, I
>> _can_ reboot from CD by holding the 'option' key, but not to the point
>> that OS X Server is running to where it can install itself.
>> (Interestingly, although the Blue Box environment on Rhapsody 1.2 is 
>> 8.5
>> (8.6?), the CD seems to boot into OS 9.  Figure that out!)
>
> Gossamer = Beige G3? (MT version I presume)
>
> It seems odd that Blue Box would be 8.5 when OS 9 was already kicking 
> around
> (I don't think OS 8.5/8.6 were ever used even for developer releases of 
> Blue
> Box (perhaps OS X Server 1.0 was different))!!!
>
> Question: is your RAM compatible with OS 9/OS X? The Firmware upgrade
> accompanying 9/X rendered some cheap RAM incompatible with Macs. (I 
> can't
> remember if the Beige G3s were affected). Secondly, do you have enough 
> RAM?
> 64 MB may be the theoretical minimum but I've not heard of anyone
> successfully using 64 MB of RAM (128 MB is suicide for anything beyond
> running one application at a time but at least OS X will *run* (why 
> Apple
> sells their eMac with 128 MB RAM is beyond comprehension)).
>
> If you're running such an old version of OS X Server you may find that 
> OS X
> consumer 10.1.4/10.1.5 is about as stable and can run the same 
> services (I
> think). SAMBA will give you interoperability with SMB machines (Windows,
> Linux, etc.) (as does OS X 10.1 consumer but not as smoothly), you can
> install the [free] heavy-duty Apache webserver over-top Apple's limited
> FTP/HTTP Apache implementation in OS X, and can probably install 
> printing
> services if you need them. If not sure if a NFS-compatible client/sever 
> is
> in the works for OS X (isn't NFS a proprietary Novell or M$ protocol?).
>
> The other perk to running the consumer version is that you'll have an OS
> that you can use for personal stuff, and with 10.1.5 Apple did add some
> video support for the Beige G3's limited video capabilities.

Hi Eric.

"Gossamer" was the codename for both the tower and the desktop.  Yeah I 
have the MT, with 128MB RAM, 12 gig IDE HD, ATAPI CD-ROM, and SCSI Zip 
drive.  Nice little box.

I need Rhapsody (OS X Server 1.x) because I'm working to integrate my 
NeXT boxes with my Macs.  With OSXS I can remote-display (NXHost) my 
NeXT apps from my Cube & Station to the G3.  That works with OSXS v1 
because v1 used Display PostScript (DPS) -- just like the NeXT.  Version 
10.1.x (both Consumer and Server flavors) use Display PDF (DPDF) which 
does not support this NXHosting.

BTW, when I get this thing installed I can tell you exactly what 1.1 and 
1.2 install in the Blue Box.  I also wonder if I can install OS 9 in the 
Blue Box of OS X Server 1.2.... hmm..... I'll try it anyway! :)

How can I tell what my firmware level is, and whether the firmware 
upgrade has been applied?   I know the 128MB in there will work with OS 
9 -- I had that installed last night.  I've also got some PC-100 RAM 
(64MB + 32MB) from an old PC -- I'd like to use that if it'll work.

As for RAM requirements, I imagine (but don't know for certain) v1.2 
requires much less RAM than the current 10.1.x -- it is MUCH closer to 
NeXT than today's OS is, and NeXT ran well in 16MB on a 68030.  (My 
station today has 32MB -- its max -- and it runs quite nicely.)

BTW I love OS X -- I do use 10.1.5 on my TiBook and on my Cube.  It's 
just that this is for a different project.  :)

Eagle


-- 
G-List is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and...

 Small Dog Electronics    http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives |
 -- We have Apple Refurbished Monitors in stock!  |  & CDRWs on Sale!  |

      Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html>

G-List list info:       <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml>
Send list messages to:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To unsubscribe, email:  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-list%40mail.maclaunch.com/>

Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! 
<http://www.applelinks.com>

Reply via email to