not to waste space, but i'm 39.  not to brag, but i do have a genius IQ.
 then again i'm also dyslexic, and for several years have had severe
migraines and cluster headaches which tend to cause serious mental
impairment (and i can never spell well).  i'm not in mensa, seems like
they tend to be awfully elitist.  i've been playing with electronics
since kindergarten, and seriously play with electronics since 7th grade.
 i've been playing with computers since 9th grade, which at that time
meant using a cdc machine over leased phone lines at 300 baud on a
printing terminal, using basic no less.  i took the one programming
class they had at my high school later (any one could use said
terminals, nearly any one at least), got to work on a mighty pdp 11
(ha!) and an apple II, with the massive 170 k floppies (something like
that).  i then did an independent study learning pascal on the apple II,
which required frequent floppy swapping just to write and then run a
program.  

i've also designed and been the only tech in the company to work on
electronics in an ultra high vacuum (10^-10 torr), including having to
solder after electronics were mounted in one case and designing and
building the electronics that normally wound up in them, usually
soldered and cleaned before installation.  this was on an absolute
gravimeter that measured gravity to so accurately that any more accuracy
would require barometer readings of the sky above at several altitudes
to compensate for atmospheric density/gravity pulling up.  they were
only $400,000 depending on options, and sold mostly overseas, the
japanese loved them and 2 different agencies bought them.

there are however many childish persons on this list, and i've certainly
been foolish enough to take the flame bait before.  remember, you're not
only allowed to be stupid in america, it affords one substantial legal
immunity, a smart person is in deep doo doo if they do something
illegal, a stupid person can use the Ray-gunz excuse "I can't recall"
and still be president!

the american educational system is rather poor, and getting worse. 
frankly, i think it's political, the ignorant are easier to rule, those
who know history don't want the government repeating past mistakes that
those in power never learned from or some how think they are above. 
even colleges in this country have slipped badly, some of the intro
level courses i took were so simple that reading anything in parenthesis
in the text made you want to scream because it was at what should have
been an 8th grade level!  the same thing has happened to television news
in this country, i learn far more about what's happening in the world
and even in the u.s. watching the bbc news!  it's truly tragic...

David Stormo wrote:
> 
> I'm only slightly curious, but I must ask:  how old are those of you
> bickering over this time/space wasting nonsense?  I hope I don't hurt
> anyones all important feelings but I imagine that you are all recently
> rolled off the American educational system assembly line.  Am I right?
> Just remember children that an inconvenience is only and adventure
> wrongly considered.
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your courage intact, your eyes kind...out of your smile will bloom a
flower.  and...on the long, rough road, the sun and the moon will
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