On Friday, February 7, 2003, at 11:33  AM, George H-S wrote:

> My computer is used mainly for web browsing, email, word processing and
> digital photography

My exact scenaro. In addition ,  I use Apple Works (for data base)  , 
Quicken for budgets, Photoshop Elements 2 for processing pix from my 
digital camera ( Minolta Dimage 3.1 pixels) via iPhoto downloads.

I do NOT do "games". I do not need video "speed".
I bought the Radion 7000 only for its capability to drive two monitors. 
This freed up a PCI slot for other things

BTW. The Radion 7000 is configured for DVD playback


> How much trouble did you have setting it

None at all. I upgraded from a power mac 7600 ( and from a performa 
6300 ,and from a SEll) and have been working macs since 1986, Been thru 
it all!
The main reason is that  I NEVER  buy an upgrade component until I  see 
two independent reviews from actual users with the same  OS and 
hardware. I go to XLR8yrmac , MacWorld and MacHints forums; and best of 
all , post for recommendations from guys on this list. As a result, all 
my hardware upgrades were plug-n-play. Even ignored  the CUDA  reset 
after the ZIF upgrade !!!

>  and how has it made a difference in perceived performance?

Upgrading the CPU from the stock G3 350Mhz/512MB to the G4 500Mhz/1MB 
really speeded up working with Photoshop Elements and the IE5 browser. 
I belive the increase in Backside cache is the big driver
I  can not say if there  is a difference between G3 & G4 upgrade for my 
use scenario.
I went for the G4 since it was only $50 more than the G3

First of all, I decided that this B&W is it.
  I see no need to pay out big bucks for a new G4 for what I do! NO 
games , video processing or large batch data base processing stuff.
I do not need a Mercedes to drive to the supermarket. My Mercury  wagon 
does the same job at half the price.
But I do agree, no "who is that" heads turn when I drive down the road 
; even the dogs ignore me.
  I personally apply this same "be the first  on the block  logic" to 
upgrading to the new Apple G4 stuff.
My opinion only

So here was my order of importance for upgrading my  stock B&W V1 MOBO

1.Maxed out the RAM to 1024 MB. You never can have enough RAM in a Mac, 
especially with OSX & graphics

2. CPU ZIFfrom  G3 350/512MB Back Side Cache to G4 500/1MB. Max it 
out-get the feel of having a "cheap" G4.
    2a. Changed the heat sink to the larger V2 version, Added a fan on 
top, blowing upwards into the main fan. CPU now runs between 35C to 40C 
with a 21C ambient. Before, it was running  45C to 50C!

3. Radion 7000
   3a  For two monitor operation

4. IDE Controller ; PCI SIG Ultra ATA 133/100 .  Capable of driving two 
each  Master-Slave sets of hard drives; for  future expansion.
         4a. Connected my IBM 40GB GXP to the SIG. Use as a single 
partitioned , primary boot up drive . I do NOT use classic. OS9.2 is a 
distant memory! Upgraded ( lots of $ involved here) all my Application 
software to be OSX compatible.
         4b. Kept the stock , 5400 RPM,12GB HD connected to the MOBO and 
use it as my internal, bootable , just-in-case, backup volume.

5. PCI Adaptec 4300 FW Driver. The built-in FW module is a Apple "dog". 
I could not backup large files using the external OWC Oxford 911 FW 
enclosure -would always hang up and corrupt and had to reformat  the 
HD. Could never recover the data with DiskWarrior. Many other posts 
with similar FW problems on the B&W . This PCI card has solved the 
problem.
Also drives my external, LaCie  FW Burner w/o problems-no coasters(so 
far)

Thats it

  BTW. Get upgraded to the Safari browser as soon as you can. It blows 
away IE5.2. It would appear that Apple has finally come to realize what 
Microsoft figured out a long time ago. The fastest web browser is one 
that is configured into the operating system and not configured as a 
third party application
I will bet that with future OSX upgrades, Safari will be 100% p/o the 
operating system.

As a test. I have a second Windows 98 ,HP Vectra / 250MZ CPU  machine / 
IE5. (which I never use-was for my wife , who refuses to use 
it-computers are not nor ever will be , her cup of tea-prefers to use 
the telephone instead of e-mail and USPS mail for pictures)
Compared to the 500MHz B&W / OSX /IE5.2, its lightning fast-switching 
between web sites and links  with the blink of an eye, using identical 
sites at the same time of day, thru my cable modem ISP ( Comcast.net)

But now with Safari, there is essentially no difference in browser 
speed between the two machines
Apple has finally come thru for web surfing nuts-in my case, 90% of my 
on-line time.

Albert


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