On Wednesday, Feb 26, 2003, at 12:26 US/Mountain, Damon Blythe wrote:

> Okay, I will add my two cents in as well... I have a g3 beige mt 333 I
> installed a brand new   20 gig maxtor hd that is ata133. After using
> the osx.2 disk to boot and partition the drive

okay i forgot to add here that I partitioned the drive into a 6gb and 
12gb portions here. 6gb being the first. You have to install osx on a 
beige g3 into the first 8gb partition or it won't boot. When you 
partition the drive using the osx disk, you MUST reboot. OSX won't see 
the right drives until you reboot. I didn't want classic or whatever 
the mac os 9 stuff is called, so I just use osx and just installed osx. 
So you probably don't need a controller card just yet. Get the thing to 
boot and run, and then try a controller card. My machine boots into osx 
in under a minute.
> , I rebooted and started
> installing osx.2 After installation, I powered down, removed the dvd
> rom drive I was booting from, installed my cdrw that won't apple boot,
> and then powered up. No problems. However, when I went into about this
> mac I got a kernel panic. I rebooted and haven't looked back since. So
> YES, your ata133 drive will work on a ata33 controller. Having said
> that, with a 120gb drive will probably have a LOT less problems on a
> controller card rather than a 20gb hooked up to the onboard controller.
> However, mine was a brand new drive and I didn't initialize it. So....
> On Wednesday, Feb 26, 2003, at 10:55 US/Mountain, James Morgan wrote:
>
>>> --- James Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>    I recently put this same combination in a G3 DT but I put in
>>>> an A-Card ATA-133 PCI/IDE card and hooked the drive to it. Works 
>>>> like
>>>> a champ and boots as well.
>>>>
>>>>    Much better to hook a new ATA 133 hard drive to an ATA 133
>>>> controller than to hook it up to an ATA 33 or ATA 66 bus.
>>>> --
>>>>  MacSheep
>>>
>>> Did you have to re-initialize the drive? I.e., can you just plug a
>>> drive that has files on it and be recognized immediately?
>> --------------------
>>      This was a new hard drive and so I did initialize it.
>>
>>      In the past I moved a hard drive that was initialized with
>> and run from the onboard IDE controller to an IDE/PCI card and it
>> didn't work.  I  hear  this limitation has been overcome in newer
>> systems but I remain wary of doing it.   So can't say if yours will
>> work or not. However, if it were me, and the hard drive was set up
>> on, say, an ATA 33 bus, I would not attempt to hook it up to and run
>> it from an ATA 133 PCI card. Just being cautious.
>>
>>      If you have any way to save the data off the drive it is
>> safest to save the data somewhere off the drive first  then  hook the
>> drive to the ATA 133 card, write it to zero, initialize and partition
>> it, and then put the data back on it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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