Hi,

for starters:

Why you should send plain-text:
http://expita.com/nomime.html

and therefor why the list policy is sane.


On 14-Aug-2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am trying to change my fonts for AOL X.   There is no such setting in the
> preferences to change it to text format instead of rtf or who knows what
> AOL uses (it is not specified).   

You shouldn't even have a *choice* of font for sending (for display in you
window of course you can choose whatever font you want, fixed width would be
a prefered choice or you might miss most ASCII art).

> I selected a different font.   Does anyone know if 
> there is any font in the OS X font list that no matter what you do writes 
> simple, plain text characters?   

That's not quite the point. You've to tell the mail-program to:
- not use html
- not send mime-encoded text/html

This is not done by a font-choice. It's the underlying text-representation.
Actually plain text might be US-ASCII (A-Z,a-z, numbers, puctuation, some
special characters) or some language specific encoding like latin-1 or
something exotic like russian cyrillic encoding koi8-R. None of this need
html (web-browser language). The basic minimum standard readable by everybody
is us-ascii, that's why it's so good. It makes sure everybody can read it.

> I don't know it seems that AOL X no matter how 
> simple the email and plain it always uses its own format or at least makes 
> servers believe it is not text format.   this is frustrating.

That might actually be the case:

This list:
http://expita.com/nomime.html#programs

contains several AOL mail-clients. There is no AOL X but AOL 8 (win version I
guess) which can not send plain text. 

a note under Mac OS X Mail says (citing above page):

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mac OS X Mail

MIME and HTML are enabled by the mail program's default rich text format
(RTF) but can easily be turned off on a message-by-message basis. Simply
opening a new message window and then go to the "Format" menu and select
"Make Plain Text". 

You can turn off RTF permanently by going to the "Mail Menu" and select
"Preferences" then choose "Composing". At the top of the new window select
"Format: Plain Text". Now all outgoing messages are plain text by default.

NOTE: AOL 10.2.1 for Mac OS X appears incapable of sending plain text e-mail.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

This would suggest to me that AOL for OS X cant send plain text. Well, that
will keep you from posting to this list (and many other mailing lists).


> I am confused I am trully not using any styles or special characters in the
> email (I didn't set any either EVER) I mean it.


There seem to be other mail-programs for Mac which *can* send plain text. 
Entourage and Eudora are explicitly mentioned. netscape has a mail client, so
I don't know what netscape version would run on OS X natively.


> oh btw whoever said this is not my week is right! ;)



Since you started with AOL..... ;-) 



K.-H.


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