I also keep separate emails and have the most spam on this account where I receive the 
G-list. 

I asked about the security problem about a week ago and didn't get much response. It 
was published on my university IT page but I couldn't find anything about it on 
Apple's site (maybe I didn't know where to look).

I also don't know where to look to get basic information about what I (being just an 
individual user with no commercial stuff going on on my machine) need to do to 
"protect" my machine. I would have assumed that no one would be interested in me, but 
I do have a cable modem and so, in one sense, am online all the time. I had thought 
that the OS's firewall was enough. Am I wrong?

Anastasia Coles
> 
> From: Philip Stortz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2004/06/03 Thu PM 10:26:03 EDT
> To: "G-List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Mac Security Link
> 
> That's always been my biggest problem with apple, i.e. they don't properly document
> security holes and patches on their website.  because of this, when a big hole is 
> found in
> all bsd based operating systems it's difficult or impossible to determine whether 
> apple
> has fixed a given problem.  
> 
> it's also sad to see them taking the microsoft approach to security publicity, 
> constantly
> downplaying real threats and even lying about updates for security by saying they 
> are to
> "improve performance" when they are actually meant to patch serious security holes
> (actually, the computer industry in general is guilty of a good deal of spin 
> management on
> security issues, offering platitudes rather than trying to educate users or just be
> honest).  
> 
> os x users are headed for a rude awakening, and it will happen soon.  no matter what 
> os
> you use, you'd better have a firewall and some idea of how to set it up, and if you 
> don't
> know you had better learn!  virus activity on the net has been incredible for months 
> now. 
> some crackers are competing with others to see who can do the most damage, and their
> exploits have even included taunts to other groups.
> 
> it's about communication and honesty, if a company isn't honest about security 
> problems
> users are far more likely to have rude surprises, especially users who bother to 
> keep up
> with things and actually have critical applications like commercial web pages and 
> stores. 
> a company can go out of business quick if they can't keep an online store up or get 
> badly
> ripped off.
> 
> heads up folks, not heads in the sand.  apple has been lucky for a long time, but 
> remember
> os x is unix based, and unix was one of the first widely cracked systems, and the 
> best and
> brightest programers and crackers gravitate towards unix type systems, and tend to 
> stumble
> on security issues, even if they aren't aggressively looking for those bugs.
> 
> one interesting note about mac security, i maintain several separate email addresses 
> for
> different types of activity.  the address i use for all of my apple listserv stuff 
> is the
> only one that's ever had any spam of any type.  some people on this list have had 
> their
> machines cracked and address books accessed, and it's been done by the nigerian type
> scammers!  these people are serious organized criminals.  it may be that they've 
> hacked
> windows boxes that some use for their list, but the insecurity of those systems then
> impacts the security of others on the list.  vulnerabilities in one system often 
> threaten
> the security of other systems, it's important to keep that in mind.  after all, the 
> net is
> a network, i.e. every thing is interconnected to various degrees.
> 
> 
> 
> Donald Parsons wrote:
> > 
> > Thie is an interesting article regarding Mac security information.
> > 
> > http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105-5225115.html
> > 
> > Don
> > 
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