Rev. George, G-Listas All Am excited that there are others that're also watchin' this thread, and Thanx for all your positivity too, and for what it's worth I am still shootin' at the stars in hopes... see below loonngg
"Rev. George G. Guillory" wrote: > on 6/26/04 10:30 PM, Cornett at cornett wrote: snip > >>>>> The problems now are on the wished soon-to-be SCSI only unit, where > >>>>> one of my on-hand SCSI cards will handle the HDs, with the other slots > >>>>> hopefully filled with another Radeon 7000ME 32Mb and another > >>>>> USB/FW combo, but something is strange in that the cards do not > >>>>> seem to like each other, and as pointed out by a few others off-list > >>>>> that certain cards prefer certain PCI positions to work, and others > >>>>> need a certain(again ukn) order in which the cards are slotted up to > >>>>> majically work well with other cards, or/and a mix(ukn) of both. > >>>>> > >>>>> Would anyone happen to have a point to uRL of the cards that go best > >>>>> in such-n-such slot position and/or maybe a list of cards that either > >>>>> don't/won't like to play well together or that vis-a-versa are happy > >>>>> together? Please do excuse my shoot for the stars hopes/attitude > >>>>> here. > >>>> > >>>> Hi Bill and all; > >>>> I've been kind of following this thread as I also have a Beige G3MT and > >>>> may want to add FW and or USB later. > >>>> The one thing I don't remember seeing mentioned is that certain revisions > >>>> of the G3 MOBO's and/or Roms don't work with certain, and/or all, FW/USB > >>>> combo cards, no matter what you do. > >>>> IIRC, someone else on the list had a very similar problem a while back, > >>>> but I don't recall the exact specifics. > >>>> I'm sure, if we asked nicely, our resident G3 expert and Guru, Mr. PeterH > >>>> <grin> would be glad to enlighten us on this subject. > >>> I agree wholeheartedly, Guru PeterH are you there? knock-knock... help > >>>> Also, <http://www.xlr8yourmac.com> has a veritable wealth of info on the > >>>> Beige G3's. HTH > > snip > >>> and I've still got an open PCI slot to boot, so am wonderin' what should/ > >>> would go in there?, any ideas??. > >>> > >>> Now, my other wonder BeigeG3 also is a rev.3, so I do believe that the > >>> OM-USB/FW combo card and the Radeon 7000 will also fair well, but > >>> have narrowed the problem down to which slots will afford the f/wSCSI > >>> card(either the stock Apple or the now flashed to ATTO) to be Happy > >>> with the other 2 cards, or so it seems to me at this point. Remember this > >>> is hoped to be a SCSI drive Only unit, but if'n it can't be resolved I've > >>> still > >>> got my SonnetATA133 card to drop in and fall back on if all else fails. > > snip > >> Hi Bill; > >> I also posted a cc to the list along with my reply to you. PeterH runs all > >> his G3's as UW/SCSI and hopefully he can shed some light on this mystery to > >> all our benefit. Just thought of something!! My G3MT was originally a server > >> and shipped with the ATTO/Apple SCSI card. IIRC, Apple put it in the slot > >> closest to the center of the MOBO and I think I read somewhere that is where > >> it belongs. > >> Another thing you might want to look at is that with an ATA133 controller > >> card, you can use the cheaper ATA drives that will be just as fast or faster > >> than the more expensive SCSI drives. HTH > > George, again many Thanx, also for correcting my error on the UltraWide(n > > not FW fast wide) SCSI. Yes, both of my came with their SCSI cards in that > > slot, but I hadn't a notion that that's where they were supposed to stay, so > > I pulled them and slid the Radeons in there, so now I'd better go back in > > and put the SCSI card back into the stock position and then go from there > > on the Radeon7000 and OM-USB/FW combo and see if'n that clicks. > > > > As I am hoping to have both up and running one @ a full load of ata133 > > (as it is presently) , and the other with a full loaded compliment of big > > UW/SCSI(36Gb and 18Gb) Only, then run whatever benchmarking found > > to get a front row seat on how they both do on results of the same tests, > > then if'n the ata133 only setup wins hands down, I'll pull all the SCSI and > > switchover to only the ata133 HDs with those real nice hefty 8Mb buffers. > > Time will tell on this showdown tho. Sure would be nice if PeterH chimed > > in here with the real Guru lowdown for us. > > Hi Bill; > Sorry for the long quote, but I've been watching the list and haven't seen > a reply to your post. How is your project coming along? If you're still > having problems try posting to <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. > I'm sure you'll get some answers there. HTH > --Thanks; Rev. George > --Maranatha (means the Lord cometh) I wish to Thank You for your wakeup call on this seemingly very quiet area grey area on our G3s, and as I've had too many irons in the fire and too little solid input (other than the suggestion that the UW SCSI cards need to be in the nearest to the processor slot to function) on my hunt for All the BeigeG3's Open Firmware (other than these found 3): init-nvram set-defaults reset-all unique BeigeG3 dt/mt machine inputs to help in that area, Yes, it is a very scary area yet indeed, needing more time than available for pre-study with lotsa geek to spare, an some real big cajones to foolishly play around in OF to boot. But, I am plannin' to go back in and replace the SCSI card to it's original position and slide the Radeon 7000 over to the middle slot hit the CUDA, Zap the PRAM on Restart and hope for the best that both cards are workin' well before tryin' to install the OrangeMicro-FW/USB card in the open outside slot. If anyone could indulge us with some more enlightenment on these areas of thought, or even point to uRLs that would be of great help. TIA As I'm on Digest form, do Please add a b/CC to my addy onto the Send. TIA for your time and kind considerations and the bandwidth once again. Respectful of GURUs Bill Cornett cornettATgolDOTcom current setup: <BeigeG3mtAV/533Mhz1Mb/MaxRAM/Radeon7000me32Mb/Sonnet TempoTreoATA133/USB/FWcomboPCI/3x120GbHDs/20GbNativeATA busHD/CD-RW/Zip/Bootable OSs-8.51/8.6/9.1/9.2.2 all MT internal> "Most of the people I know use Macs, and it feels like we're a privileged minority, though the odd thing is that, unlike Mercedes or BMWs, they are not significantly more expensive than the competition. Why does anybody use anything else?" -Douglas Adams / -- G-List is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... 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