Philip,

Please do the list a favor! Pack up your soap box and go away! Between this rant and all the others of late, not to mention the moronic sigs, I really can't take much more of you.

Enough said, please lets get back on topic!

Andy



On Oct 18, 2004, at 12:48 AM, Philip Stortz wrote:

warning!  major rant!

that's disappointing. was that on the "science" channel? i find the extensive talking
down to people, even on the science channel and discovery, and the frequent mis-statement
of things (beyond simple simplification which is bad enough) on those channels to be
rather distressing. these are promoted as channels with programing by people who
understand science, but all too often gross mistakes are made, things are grossly over
simplified, and things are out right mis-stated, even when paraphrasing what a
professional has just said! are the problems with getting good scientist and engineers,
and the publics gross misunderstanding of things any surprise? i realize that most people
aren't science geeks to the extent i am, but i'd think that if you are going to watch a
program about science that you'd want it to be correct, and maybe the "host" should even
understand what they are talking about (or care beyond it being just another job). of
course when shows like "discoveries this week" don't even talk about current discoveries
but silly things that are often decades old (though some of those are constantly claimed
to be knew by the scammers involved) and in some cases have already failed to pan out, or
clearly won't.


is it any surprise that the department of justice wasted good money paying for someone to
try and develop a tazer that used a pair of ultraviolet lasers to create ionized paths in
the air rather than wires (why did no one realize that this would be a blinding weapon?
how can you give out money for research projects without any scientific analysis of it at
all?)? they were proud of this project, it was in their internal news documents and
touted as one of the major advances they were working on. yeah, it uses lasers so it must
be great! listen to people who have a clue! before spending millions of dollars go out
and solicit opinions of people who have a clue, and put people in charge who have some
small clue. and why when these projects are over aren't people ever charged with fraud?
the people who got money for this idea were nothing but con artist and thieves.


of course the same can be said about the history channel (it's actually a lot worse, and
really, really disappointing) and the other niche channels that are perceived as
educational (not to mention the many, many failings of the "entertainment" channels).
then again i'm just disgusted by tv any more in any case. everything has gotten stupid,
mean, and mocking, and just plain ignorant and failing to show any compassion (as opposed
to just plain lust and greed). i'm not sure if they are just providing what people want
as society degrades, or if they are really pushing that degradation, in either case it's
really alarming. like i said, once you get garbage into your' head it's hard to get out,
and a lot of people are getting some serious garbage in their heads about what's normal in
how people are or should be treated etc. argh.


wasted money, wasted time, wasted brains. if the public is going to be stupid and
ignorant why shouldn't they be drunk and stoned all day? nothing bothers me more than
people who actually have brains but refuse to use them, and i've seen a lot of people like
that first hand. not bothering to think about something doesn't make someone less
responsible for the outcome, it makes them more responsible even while there behavior is irresponsible.


Andrew Grebneff wrote:
-----
Such as "Walking with Dinosaurs"! Some of the paleontologists acting
as advisors (for free!) were ignored repeatedly...  that was one
series which was based more on the writers' imaginations than facts,
despite being promoted as a "documentary".
------

--
The FBI could easily have prevented 9/11, if they had wanted to. Agents have repeatedly been
thrawted by their supervisors while pursuing promising investigations, several of which
would have
prevented 9/11, but maybe that was the point. Evidence from respected news agencies and
conservative publications. <http://counterpunch.org/sacks06262004.html>


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