Brandon Wise wrote:
You only need XPostFacto if you plan to run 10.3 on a beige.. My 10.2 eMac cds (grey) from OWC installed without a hitch on both of my G3/300's. One with 384mgs of ram, the other 128.. They are both rock solid.. If only a bit slower than os 9..Jim,
Did you use OWC's XPostFacto to install OS X?
I have a set of 10.2 CDs that my beige G3 never would boot (and would be in a world of hurt afterwards). However, using XPostFacto, I am sucessfully running a 9.2.2 and 10.3.5 333 beige G3 desktop. I would take some time to look at XPostFacto and the documentation provided at OWC's site. Essentially XPostFacto takes care of changing OpenFirmware parameters to both install OS X and boot between OS 9 and OS X. It also compensates for the horribly buggy "Old World" OpenFirmware (2.0f or 2.4 in the case of beige G3s).
As to resetting the machine I know I read somewhere about disconnecting the power cable from the power supply, disconnecting the power connector from the motherboard, removing the PRAM battery, then holding the CUDA switch for about 5 seconds. Afterwards, let the machine sit for 5-15 minutes (don't recall how long I was told originally). I did this when I really host my machine trying to install 10.2 without XPostFacto and was able to boot from a 9.1 CD and reinstal OS 9.
Hope some of that helps. -- Brandon in Durham, NC
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 14:18:52 -0700 (PDT), Jim Redman
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I still have the same problem and no answers - can I re-post?
I have a Beige G3 desktop, 266 mhz, Rev 1 (rats). It has 416 MB RAM (so far) and came to me secondhand with an original ATA Apple CD and a Maxtor 15.3 GB Diamondmax Plus 45 HD, plus a SCSI factory Zip and an added(?) Hungarian-made (for IBM, I think) SCSI HD that shows up as Product ID ZJCS2-18GB. I believe it shipped originally with OS 8.1 (got the CD with it) and was updated to 8.5, then 8.6 (got those too). I plugged in a Pioneer DVR-103MA burner and it reads CDs fine, so I bought a set of OS 9.22 / OS X 10.2.4 install CDs, also secondhand: grey, from an eMac. I partitioned the SCSI HD, moved the OS 8.6 to the first part, installed OS 9 on the newly partitioned ATA Maxtor second part and then OS X on the first part. At least that was my intention. The first thing I tried was installing OS 9 over 8.6 on the SCSI and OS X on the ATA and it almost worked, but I was having trouble with each of the OSs recognizing the other drives and booting to the other systems. I finally decided to relegate my older software I want to run, to a Centris 650 with the RAM maxed and network it to the G3. I was about ready to go OS X only on the G3, maybe with an ATI Radeon 7000 to deal with the DVD compliance issues. BUT NOW... I did something that was probably stupid... thought the settings on the CD/DVD might be the problem with drive recognition (some of the details on that are getting fuzzy with age, it's been weeks messing with this), so I tried changing jumpers, even trying slave on CD and then HD which isn't supposed to work on this G3 but I was desperate, and now nothing works for installing OS X. I DID take notes on the original MaxtorHD/AppleCD settings but lost them! The HD is on the ATA 0 bus, or channel, and reports ID 0; the Pioneer is on ATA 1, ID 0, and I don't see anything to jumper the ID on the CD. I am given to understand they should both be set to Master, and certainly Slave and ChannelSelect setting don't work, they create all kinds of "No bootable" and "can't load" tiny messages on blank grey screens that stop there. But now, even both on Master, and after multiple PRAM zaps and a CUDA goosing (and CUDA seemed to confuse it more), I'm still have CD boot/install problems. It was able to recognize 8.6 on the SCSI and run Install for 9.22 from the CD onto the second half of the ATA, but that doesn't work for the OSX Install. Help? Is anyone intimately familiar with the jumpers on these drives on this G3? And with how to straighten this out??
Can anyone tell me if using model-specific OS versions and just deleting or disabling extensions you don't need, is a problem? I also tried installing the 8.1 on my Centris, and it seems to run everything I need it to, but the slightest problem, such as inserting an OS X -hosed floppy, will seize it solid. OS 7.6.1 shrugs the same events off ("Initialize this disk?").
Jim the Redman
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