Thank you -----Original Message----- From: Al Poulin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 11:38 AM To: G-List Subject: Re: Unix and OS X (was: Networking)
Welcome aboard, Steve. "Noltensmeyer, Steve J. [C]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have been away from the MAC as a systems admin for 5 or 6 years now. > > I just bought a used G3 off e-bay to help learn the OS X. > > I have been a Unix SGI system admin for the last five years and a WIN > 2K > system admin for the last year and a half. > > Will the SGI Unix help with OS X? Most definitely, but I know next to nothing about Unix for any detail. Apple has excellent references to Unix. Just start with a search at Apple's support pages on words like "terminal" and "root" and "short name". So far, for myself, I've avoided those things like the plague since I first installed Panther three months ago on my G4. > > I have read in the past the way to set them up is with two hard drives > or > two partitions. True for early G3 models which have some kind of 8GB limitation on the volume for OS X. > One drive / partition for OS 9.22 and a second for OS X. > > I have two hard drives and I set my G3 up as above. Is this the best or > recommended way to set the system up correctly? > In Macs between those early G3s and the latest G4s and the G5s, what you did comes naturally for anyone with two drives or two partitions. But it is equally fine for users with only one drive/one partition to install both OS 9.2.2 and the recent versions of OS X together. They can still boot either OS and can configure OS X to run 9 for Classic. I have two drives, both 40GB, Drives A & B (not their real names, but just for discussion here). Drive A has one partition with both OS X Panther and OS 9.2.2. Here, I can boot from either OS or run Classic under OS X. Drive B has three partitions, one for everything that I had under OS 9 before installing Panther, just in case disaster came with OS X. I think I used this only a couple times in the beginning for startup and to move files. It is now my backup drive for data, but OS 9 is still there in case I need it. The second partition is for OS X Emergency. The third is for Scratch, assigned to Photoshop Elements. With the latest G4 models and the G5s, you cannot boot to OS 9, but the OS 9 System Folder is there for Classic. > I can boot OS X and open an OS 9.22 file which opens a shell running > OS 9.22 > (classic mode) to run the file or application. > > Is there any advantages to running the OS 9.22 files booted up in 9.22 > not > through the shell (classic mode)? Yes, for a few, oddball applications which will not run in Classic. You'll know, if you have them. And yes if you have old peripherals that work only with old drivers. But, there are some third party packages available for many old scanners and printers which allow use of most of these older peripherals, but not all. And yes again, for speed/performance with some apps, on some machines, according to some users, probably depending on their unique hardware and software configurations. But for speed, most people cannot tell the difference, especially with Panther, the latest OS X. > > Are there any limitations to the classic mode -vs- the native 9.22 > boot? Looks like the same question, really. But the advantage of Classic mode over booting 9.2.2 is time saved in starting up an OS 9, 8, or even 7 application. You do not have to shut down OS X. You can have your OS 9/Classic start up the same time as you boot OS X if you wish. You can keep OS X running 24x7 and start/stop Classic anytime. You can have Classic shut down and it will start up whenever you click on a Classic application. And for the folks who have data accessible only in OS 9 or Classic, they can seamlessly run apps in both 9 and X and move data between them. > > Any advice Look and ask for things that a Unix geek would do by second nature in Unix which you cannot or should not do in OS X Terminal or Root mode. I don't have a clue what they are, but I have the impression you could regret doing a few things. David Pogue, in his book: "Mac OS X Panther Edition The Missing Manual" has chapters on: Terminal: Doorway to Unix Fun with Unix Hacking Mac OS X and two appendices to help old Mac users and old Windows users find their way through OS X. You can check this out at: http://www.davidpogue.com/ and the major book vendors. Have fun. Al Poulin Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, proactive self-defense is for the rest of us. -- G-List is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... 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