Dan,

Thank you very much for your help. I will try the memory fixes ASAP.
I was definitely booted in OS 9. It doesn't matter though, I get the same
error in classic mode also.
Insufficient memory do you want to fix?

I used to work with MACs all the time with my old job and at home.
I have been working with SGI UNIX and WIN as a sys admin for the last five
years.
So my current computers at home are also Windows and SGI Unix.

I just recently bought the G3 b/w from e-bay. I had no background on this
computer and it did not have the latest OS versions loaded. Also I wanted
practice loading and configuring MAC OS X. (fun to play)

I have my own computer repair service and have been getting more and more
MAC jobs. I usually can find my way through with my older MAC experience but
I don't like fumbling in front of my customers. So I bought a MAC that could
run OS X. My five older macs could not run OS X.

I have to have one of everything to practice and network etc...
I tell my wife it is just a business expense. It is really true, you can't
fix what you don't know.

Thank you,

Steve










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At 08:46 AM -0500 01/31/2005, Noltensmeyer, Steve J. [C] wrote:
>I booted in OS 9.22 and down loaded the latest HP print driver for OS 9 for
>the HP PSC 1315 all in one.
>I went into the chooser and selected the printer.
>I created an Appleworks document to use as a test file to test the
printing.
>(I will be printing old appleworks / clarisworks files in OS 9.22)
>The printer has an error message saying the print cartridge has been
>changed.
>I open the desktop printer and click past this message. (how do I clear
this
>for good?)
>After the print cartridge message is cleared, I get a message saying there
>is not enough memory for the desktop printer.
>I added 1024 min  2048 max.  I keep getting the same error.

If you're actually booted in OS 9, then OS X is moot.

When printing in OS 8/9, there are four memory "issues":
1) The driver needs memory.
1) The driver's backgrounder needs memory.
2) The Finder needs extra memory.
3) The application needs extra memory.

The driver gets its memory from the System heap.  You see that as the 
free memory in the Apple menu> About This Computer dialog.

The driver's backgrounder will be found in your Extensions folder. 
You need to boot with extensions off to be able to modify it 
properly.  Turn OFF background printing to see if this is part of 
your problem, before you try to give it extra memory.

The Finder needs xtra memory for certain background switching 
operations.  If you turn OFF background printing, and things suddenly 
work, then Finder is part of the problem.

The application from which you're printing needs oddles of memory... 
AppleWorks is especially needy there.  I have a lot of complicated 
documents that won't print unless I give it 16 MB+.

Also note that you need to have available spool space on your hard 
drive for the driver's temp files.  By default that would be on your 
boot drive.

>These two errors, slow print times and slow all over performance are the
>reason I reloaded the entire mac from scratch.

heh.
(I'm not an advocate of reinstalling the OS, ever).

+/- the above... Printing under OS 8/9 was never "fast".

>Are there any known problems with a G3 blue and white running OS 10.3.2?

Moot; you're in OS 9.

>Are there any known problems with a G3 blue and white printing in classic
>mode with a USB connection?

Yes, but... Careful of your terminology.  "Classic (mode)" is an 
emulation environment that runs under Mac OS X.  Within it, 
components of the real Mac OS 9 operating system are loaded and run. 
In this environment, OS 9 has NO access to i/o devices - everything 
is passed back up to OS X.  This is why "Classic" is abysmally slow 
and very buggy.  But if you've actually bootttted the real Mac OS 9 
(not from within OS X) then you are running Mac OS 9, NOT the Classic 
emulation environment, and therefore "Classic" issues are moot.

>Could this problem be an extension conflict?

Odd question.  As part of your own debugging, you should already have 
reduced OS 9 to the default set plus the print driver. (hint)

- Dan.

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