Look, aside from the fact that it's a pointless debate (what are the odds that anyone is going to change anyone's mind?), and that it's quickly getting all too flame-y, it also makes it rather hard for me to find the messages that ARE RELEVANT to this group buried in the digests. So, I suspect I am not alone when I ask you to please take it off-list, where you can insult each other's intelligence to your heart's content. Thanks.

J

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