it's not so much that the RAM sticks are bad - it that
the maker didn't follow Apples's standards! OS 9 just
didn't care that much - but OS X DOES REQUIRE APPLE
STANDARD RAM - that's the reason I started getting my
RAM Sticks from RAMDIRECT.

rich
------------------------------------------------------------

--- Tom Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Jul 26, 2005, at 1:51 PM, David Dierlam wrote:
> 
> > how did you know you had bad ram? was there a
> program
> > or did you just start pulling?
> 
> Just started pulling, but I did it last,
> unfortunately. After doing 
> everything else possible, including stripping down
> the computer to the 
> bare bones one piece at a time, and testing after
> each piece (hence the 
> hair-pulling), I finally started pulling the RAM
> sticks.  With two of 
> the three sticks installed, no matter what slot they
> were installed in, 
> everything worked fine and OS-X would install. When
> that third RAM 
> stick was installed, no matter which slot it was put
> in, X refused to 
> install or run, although 9 continued to work
> normally. That's what 
> fools people, including me. You have to get it in
> your head that 9 will 
> apparently work fine with a bad RAM stick, while X
> won't work at all. 
> Or, as Mark wrote originally, it might work but
> badly.
> 
> Tom
> 
> > --- Tom Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> All the hair-pulling frustrations that I had when
> I
> >> originally tried to
> >> install X on this G-4 DA 733 turned out to be a
> bad
> >> memory stick too,
> >> although it had worked just fine in 9 for a year
> >> (although, who knows,
> >> maybe it had been causing trouble that I
> attributed
> >> to other things).
> >> And with other people reporting the same problems
> >> here from time to
> >> time, I have to wonder about quality control in
> the
> >> companies that make
> >> these RAM sticks. Why so many bad ones?
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> On Jul 26, 2005, at 7:09 AM, Marc van Gemert
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Maybe some of you remember me saying that OS X
> >> (10.3.8) on my G4 at
> >>> work (G4 933MHz) was so slow?
> >>> Well lately I was getting freezes and kernal
> >> panics (especially in
> >>> Photoshop) so I suspected that I had some bad
> >> memory. I have one stick
> >>> of 256MB and one of 512MB, well after the 256MB
> >> stick was removed all
> >>> freezes and kernal panics were gone, and goes
> >> what, suddenly I noticed
> >>> a real increase in speed!! Opening windows in
> the
> >> Finder, opening apps,
> >>> and opening docs in apps was noticebly faster :)
> >> Strange, but true. I
> >>> was really shocked 8)
> >>>
> >>> And luckily the speed is still there now after a
> >> new 256MB stick has
> >>> been added. Can't believe this is happening to
> me
> >> :) Then to think I've
> >>> worked almost a year with that bad stick...
> Can't
> >> believe that bad
> >>> memory can have such a negative effect on
> overall
> >> speed...
> >>


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