On Aug 3, 2005, at 11:33 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:


On Aug 2, 2005, at 5:56 PM, GDB-B&W-X.3.9 wrote:

Trust me, as I have been working with/on these little demons since 1980 (that's 25 years for those of you with a public school education), cable select has been around since the old MFM/RLL PC HD days. A special cable was required so that drives would be recognized differently on the same controller. When IDE/ATA drives came along, CS was left as an option, but no one used it because of the problems it led to in the PC world.

The problems, aside from early drives that simply didn't play well together, is that the cable needed cost a few cents more.

We've been getting PC's (Gateways and Dells) with their drives set for cable select for five, seven years now. Drives come from the factory jumpered to CS.

I see, so Dell and Gateways are the example you are using for superior PC technology? Give us a break Bruce, I've seen you make fun of them so often on this list it's not funny!

The split cable people are talking about was never used for HDD's, it was how floppy drives were set up. Perhaps some MFM controllers had split cables, but it's been too long since I've seen an MFM drive.

The point was that it takes a special cable to use the Cable Select jumper for the drives.

Apple has used IDE drives in their systems since 1994: the Performa 630 and Powerbook 150, both introduced in July 1994, used IDE drives.

Public school graduate and proud of it, I can even count to 11 with my shoes on and 21 while keeping my pants on.

Now there is an accomplishment that one can be very proud of!  8^)

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Bruce Johnson

Someone else mentioned SATA being the new technology and that may well be. I just thought it odd that Apple did not learn much from the mistakes of the PC makers. You have to admit, following the lead of Dell and Gateway is not something for Apple to be proud of.

Just a message from Doug...


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