At 8:43 AM -0700 9/28/05, Harry Freeman wrote:
Greetings ( + )!( + )
On Sep 28, 2005, at 8:05 AM, Len Gerstel wrote:
On Wednesday, September 28, 2005, at 10:42 AM, Bill Judson wrote:
<<
BTW, R.A. Cantrell, your tinyurl has been hijacked by aim.com, AOL's
instant messanger, and leads right to their home page, aim.com.
Not for me. Maybe you're using Netscape, which is owned by AOL?
Now that is screwy. Yesterday I clicked on your tinyurl,
http://tinyurl.com/vfvn three times, and each time it opened
AIM.com. I am using the last version of Mozilla for OS X. Today, it
goes right to your page. Anyone else ever notice this happen?
Len
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It's your ISP fault, they were not translating the TCPIP name
"http://tinyurl.com/vfvn"; into the correct TCPIP address.
If you go into "Applications, Utilities" and start the application
Network Utility you can lookup the TCPIP address of www.tinyurl.com/
which is 216.234.186.14
If you place this TCPIP address into your browser window the ISP
doesn't need to translate the name to address.
What you just describe is exactly the same as putting the domain name
into the browser. The browser does a DN lookup on www.tinyurl.com
and turns it into 216.234.186.14. The only part your ISP has in it
is the DNS (Domain Name Server) that the Domain Name Resolver on your
computer uses to lookup the address. Yes, if their DNS is screwy
this could happen.
I would tend to think it's more a problem with tinyurl or the cutting
and pasting of the URL. Since tinyurl is a domain is a URL
redirection service loosing or changing a single character off of the
end could send the browser to anywhere pretty much.
This can easily happen if the URL is not properly delineated by the
"<" and ">" characters. If the URL is wrapped around a line and it
doesn't have those characters a browser will typically just pick up
what ever is on the first line and can miss additional characters.
If "<" & ">" are used the browser will pick up everything in between
those, ignoring the carraige returns.
Then pull-up browser history an click on the history link that took
you to AOL IM and translate that TCPIP name into their true IP
address.
I'm not sure what all this will prove, except that your ISP didn't
do a correct translation.
It's been a long time but as best as I recall the local server that
does translations for your ISP only retains a translation address
for a short period of time (don't ask how long, perhaps another
lister can furnish that info.), unless there are a lot of request
for translation. So if the local server can not do the translation
the request is forwarded to the next higher level. Sometimes this
may go on until the request reaches the national listing authority.
And somewhere along the line your request got screwed up and your
ISP sent you to the wrong address.
Unlikely as if it this was happening it would probably be happening
on a large scale.
How long is dependent on each domain name, the TTL (time to live)
value is specified on an individual case. The local DNS may also
flush it out sooner to make room for newer entries.
--
Clark Martin
Redwood City, CA, USA
Macintosh / Internet Consulting
"I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway"
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