Len Gerstel writes,

<Anything from another beige G3 will work. Processor, drives, ram from a 
B&W will. But if there is a B&W carcass, it is best to upgrade that 
with parts from your beige.

<They would probably say Sonnet, or NewerTech or some other name on the 
zif card. Easiest way is to fire up the mac before parting it out and 
seeing what system profiler says about the processor>

No way to power up, that's why he asked me to find out what to look for 
on visual inspection of the processor. He's got access to enough to be 
able to take more than just one and plans to snag several likely 
candidates -- in the event that some of these Macs got junked for good 
reason, such as "dead processor" in this case -- we'll be able to test 
them on MY Mac. Obviously if we get lucky, we'll get a good fast one that 
works on the first shot, but if not, we keep trying. Anyway, thanks for 
the info on how to tell if the processor is an upgrade like this.

<Bus speed on the beiges is 66MHz, B&W is 100. I am using a 350 from a 
B&W in a beige at 400 with no problems.

In a beige, the processor speed is set by the jumpers that Bruce's link 
describes. So that no matter what the processor says (exclusive of 
sonnet and some other upgrades) it will run at whatever the jumpers are 
set to. If you set the speed too high (533 for a processor rated for 
266) it will either not run at all, or will overheat of start randomly 
freezing the system.>

and:

<I have the pull from a beige that has a barcode on it from Apple with 
the following text on it:
XPC750FIP266CF

XPC750- the manufacturers name for this particular G3
266- the rated speed
FIP and CF  ??>

Thank you. In addition to the jumper info (link saved, thanks for 
including it, Bruce), THIS is the info we want -- how to determine the 
rated speed. The rated speed is the speed I plan to use it at: no 
overclocking, thank you, I'm a total chicken of possible complications 
(and he's on the conservative side also). We just want to find one whose 
rated speed is higher than 266. The higher the happier -- so long as 
overclocking is not necessary to get it that way.

<No overclocking means no fan, unless you stuff the case full of 10K rpm 
SCA drives (High speed, high heat server grade SCSI drives).>

Thanks, and, hahahaha, no plans to stuff this one with hard drives at 
all. Maybe, in about ten more years at the rate I'm going, the 20-gig HD 
I've got now will begin to seem cramped, but in that case either 
replacing it with a bigger HD (doesn't have to be server quality) will 
hold me but good. 

<If the card is not recognized, you can just download the usb 1.4.1 
driver from Apple and install it.>

Thank you so much.  :-) But the FIRST move, after putting in the USB 
card,  should be to "reinstall" the 9.2.2, and if it's STILL not 
recognized, download and install this driver?

Thanks again!

~Yersinia.

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