On Nov 28, 2005, at 23:32, AB wrote:
AB to Brian's reply:
No just the whole lack of privacy. For example, I have gone to non- Mac websites and ads appear for Mac related products because of my previously tracked surfing and/or my OS and browser info. being made available.

that has very little to do with your IP address.

Umm... yes, but it has to do with the OTHER info. that sites and individuals get from your browser.

Every browser sends its identity - what type of browser it is, what platform and OS it is running on, and what version it is. Most browsers have a way to fake this information, but that is really only useful for testing, or for bypassing a Windows IE browser check that is preventing you from doing something.

It's the whole "Big Brother" thing where my purchases, political leanings, interests, etc. don,t need to be broadcast and tracked by strangers. If something can be done to help prevent it then I'm all for taking whatever measures I need to take.

Maybe quit using Safari, Safari sucks info out of my user setup and I can't find a way to make it quit. If I am using Safari and go to certain weather sites, for example, I get matchmaker.com ads for my city.

I don't use Safari. I use Firefox. And just like in your example my location info. is provided as well as my ISP name and IP address so I too get similar geographically matched ads.

That's because your ISP is a good citizen and uses DNS to reverse-map your IP address to a name within its domain name. (e.g. 24-92-152-15.nc.rr.com or some such). The IP address is required for Internet communications as I explained in my earlier reply, and there is no way of not sending out this information when you browse. You can use an anonymizer to avoid sending it to the sites to which you browse, but the anonymizer still knows your IP address (it has to).

Set up Firefox, no cache, no history, no cookies, etc and you'll see less of those ads. If you want, set FireFox to ID itself as a Windows IE browser and you'll get Windows ads instead of Mac ones. Big deal.

And, if you are using excite.com...

Financial, eBay and many other sites would be a real pain if I flushed all cookies each time. I do go thru and toss many others out manually from time to time.

You can't have both sides: you either desire total privacy or you use cookies. The two are mutually exclusive. If you want total privacy (which is a mirage anyway), you have to watch your use of cookies. There is no way to have total privacy and still use cookies.

I use excite or other web-based email only on public mail lists and the like where email addresses are easily harvested. I keep my email client (I prefer Eudora) and addresses for work and family/friends correspondence, thank you. My SPAM levels sneaking through the filters dropped considerably after I quit using my regular email on public mail lists.

I could change my email address fairly easy (not so easy for all my recipients), and if my IP address becomes compromised I would like to be able to do the same. Even as part of regular system maintenance, housecleaning and problem prevention. The firewalls work but, just one Bit torrent session can expose your system and IP to thousands of potential "evil doers" (if I may quote George Bush).

What do you mean "IP address becomes compromised"?!

This security discussion could be an interesting exercise if you would tell us what it is exactly that concerns you - what it is you are trying to accomplish, then we could discuss ways to accomplish those things, if they are possible. Internet privacy and security are two things that interest me, and I think a more formal discussion about them might interest us all.

Daniel


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