It may be worthwhile to mention another* case in Posidonius, who is perhaps 
our 
earliest source on Celts, Druids, and the like. His History was used by other 
writers, includng Strabo. The commentary on Posidonius provided by I.G. Kidd 
(Cambridge U.P., 1988, pp. 308ff) laments on how these later writers were 
tradents only of bits of the presentation by Posidonius, the Stoic writer 
whose history explored not only chronology but causation, fate, and moral 
lessons (you know the sort of thing, the value of both the bios theoretikos 
and the bios praktikos, "every good man is free," and the like). Kidd laments 
that the loss of most of this book leaves us with fragments wrenched from 
their context. As we see in Antiquities 13.

If I understand, Russell Gmirkin objected that the first Essene mention in 
Antiquites 13 (which has two mentions) is not the sort of thing one would find 
in a history book, not the History of Posidonius, neither the History of 
Strabo, nor history books generally. And yet, there it stands, in Antiquities 
13, which is to say, a history book.

best,
Stephen Goranson
* for my earlier (13 Oct) response to Russell, see
http://listhost.uchicago.edu/pipermail/ane




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