On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 11:10 PM, paul beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> If it is tedious there are remedies for that. In my use of Macs at >> home and the university I have never encountered Darwin. If it was >> something I needed to use I would be aware of it. To dismiss my >> concerns as "carping " could be taken as provactive . > > This discussion has been going on for months? And it's no further along than > this? Sheesh.
Where does it need to go? We are all waiting to see the outcome of the Apple-Psystar suits. With much anticipation I would think. Legal processes move at a pace of their own. > As for not knowing about Darwin, you seriously undermine your credibility as > a serious Apple watcher/Mac user if you say you have never heard of it. I would say near ten years of mac use put me well behind others here. As far as Apple watching I am not any more of one than i am an MS watcher, Linux watcher or Amiga watcher. ( Oh , yes, that ship is not totally sunk yet. It floats around like the " Flying Dutchman" of the computer world. Haunting the genetic memories of computer users with recollection of what a real GUI is meant to be .) > If you think there is a market opportunity that Steve Jobs is somehow not > smart enough to see, that strains it still further. From Apple to NeXT to > Pixar and back at Apple, he doesn't seem like the type to leave money on the > table. My opinion on Steve is a post or two back. If any there I would hope he would be the one to really see a bigger view of this all. I am sure what I mmean by bigger view is not what you see in the phrase. >If he thought there was a business case for licensing, I suspect he > would not have shut down down the clone business when he returned in 1997. And saved the company using a HUGE cash loan from brother Bill. Bill who got that cash by selling to a much bigger market. Bill who needs Apple to fend off government monopoly charges. Bill who many here claim to loathe. Bill who is a behind the scenes partner in saving Apple. That Bill. I am not asking for the renewal of HW clone licensing. And It is interesting that Apple components are made in the same factories as PC parts. So what the heck is a clone anyway? We Amigans had to ask ourselves " What is an Amiga" ( Everyone else was asking 'what is an Omega!:->) over a decade ago. Did i miss the hardware? not even a 1000th as much as the OS. 68x00 chips were so passe in 1994. Amigans are in two camps hobbyists who run old machines and do there best to get I/o to the world outside. And those who migrated the OS to PC hardware more than a decade ago and still use Amiga OS on a daily basis. In fact Amiga OS 4.1 has been recently released. Apple watcher? GUI watcher is more my thing. > I have yet to see anything in favor of licensing that doesn't boil down to "I > want cheaper kit." > -- I have suggested Apple address the problem by A. Selling a $500.00-600.00 tower with slots and space and connectivity other machines on the market take for granted. B. Selling an "Apple branded, Apple authored ( already extant) PC market OS. C. Or as a last resort, rewrite the EULA for OS X and with or without support let those who want, buy and install OS X on their Vista capable PC. What licensing are you talking about? Psystar asked for no license. To my knowledge my local computer builder gets no license when he puts Winblowz on a box. There is a deep injustice when an Intel Mac buyer can install Winblowz yet we are not allowed to install an Apple OS on PC equipment. The tight-grassed attitude is a poke in the eye to any Mac user who wishes to use the OS on all of his machine. I can have many cars ( Bruce's favs are Mercs Hi Bruce:) ) but I don't have to buy proprietary gasoline for each. Cheaper kit is, I suppose, an oz or UK way of saying " reasonably affordable computer system. What in the whole universe is wrong with that????????????????????????????? Adrian D'Alessio Fluxstringer --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
