On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> At 3:48 AM -0400 8/31/2008, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>>On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 10:55 PM, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  > At 9:29 PM -0500 8/30/2008, Ralph wrote:
>>  >>I don't want remarkably bad things like the treacherous firmware in
>>>>the Apple Intel Macs
>>>
>>>  Explain please?  What's wrong with EFI?
>>
>>I ask here an innocent question ( because I don't know the answer)
>>Is EFI the Mac equivalent of ".NET Framework" by MS. A way to track
>>licensing of SW on the drive installs and DRM rights ?
>
> No.  They have nothing to do with each other.
>
> (dot)NET is a proprietary software environment for Windows, created
> by MS to control the world.
>
> Extensible Firmware Interface (EFI) is the firmware that "runs" the
> motherboard of the x86 Macs.  This replaces OpenFirmware (OF), that
> was used in later PowerPC-based Macs.
>
> EFI was originally developed by Intel as a replacement ("next
> generation") for BIOS.  They have since passed development of it to
> the UEFI Forum.   (the U stands for Unified)
>
> The UEFI Forum is an alliance between a bunch of computer companies:
> AMD, Apple, Dell, HP, IBM, Intel, Lenovo, Microsoft, and a few others.
>
>>Is that Ralph's concern?
>
> I have no clue what Ralph's concern over EFI would be. Maybe he's
> afraid of it because he thinks all PCs have to be BIOS-based.  But
> EFI is the future.  Even MS is supporting it now, in Vista.  And many
> newer PCs are using it instead of BIOS now.  BIOS has soooo many
> problems (address space limitations, etc) that it needs to die.
> Intel is trying...
>
> Of course, because x86 Mac OS X is EFI based, to run on a BIOS-based
> PC, you need a "wedge" or "emulator" to make that BIOS smell like
> EFI.  That was done as an open-source project, which is used by
> companies like Psystar in their products...
>



I did not think of ,NET Framework as Java related when it would not
let me install my owned software. And until I put SP1 on Vista I had
numerous errors referring to .NET Framework. Downloads, demo installs,
legitimate SW installs from disk etc. Admin privileges not properly
recognized etc. All gave some .Net problems.

Can an after market PC mobo be obtained with the necessary
architecture for  EFI yet retain MS use?

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