On Sep 21, 2008, at 3:56 AM, g3-5-list group wrote:

> == 3 of 3 ==
> Date: Sat, Sep 20 2008 4:11 am
> From: Charles Davis
>
> On Sep 20, 2008, at 1:44 AM, Kris Tilford wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sep 20, 2008, at 12:15 AM, Charles Davis wrote:
>>
>>> Myself, I have with my MDD's several layers of complete system
>>> backups. Right now, there are 14 partitions, 6 of them being OSX. 
>>> 4.11
>>> bootable systems of varying ages. If I include the external Neptune,
>>> there are 4 more partitions, 1= 9.2.2,  3= OSX.4.11 systems.
>>
>> I had a giant mess of different partitions and backups, but I decided
>> to take the opposite track. I had data spread over lots of different
>> computers and systems, so I consolidated everything onto one single
>> volume. This was Raid 0 for both lower cost and higher access speed.
>> I'm backing up onto a single external Time Capsule HD using Time
>> Machine. Never had to touch my backup yet. I hope it works!
>>
> I like to believe in the Advertising claims, BUT I want a way back,
> if at all possible.
> [Similar to "Trust, but Verify" in Foreign Relations.]
>
> You have moved to a 'One' failure point operation [With Backup, true].
>
> I don't have Leopard (yet?), matter of $ and inertia, BUT, if I had
> "Time Machine" available, I know I would feel more secure if I made
> Separate, full backup copies periodically.

I agree, but I would like to see more discussion here of Time Machine  
and Time Capsule.  It seems that this technology is not yet fail- 
safe.  Time Machine may be more robust when hardwired than with Time  
Capsule; is this the thrust of the experience to date?  And a clone  
via Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper is more robust than what you get  
with Time Machine; true?

As for RAID 0, I see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID
saying:  "RAID 0 (striped disks) distributes data across several disks  
in a way which gives improved speed and full capacity, but all data on  
all disks will be lost if any one disk fails."

So, for back up purposes, I see Time Machine/Time Capsule as being  
handy for recovering user files for whatever reason, especially if bad  
things happen between cloning events.  But the safest back up is a  
clone to an external hard drive that is disconnected when not actually  
cloning or recovering.

More discussion please?

Al Poulin 

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