On Nov 5, 2008, at 1:17 PM, hackmiester / Hunter Fuller wrote:

>> This can mess up OS X really badly if handled wrongly.  Most often I
>> see this on systems owned by previously heavy Linux users who are
>> hesitant to use OSX'es 'sudo' oriented administration model in favor
>> of Linux's root oriented one. Then they charge in based on 'OSX is
>
> Since when does Linux not have a root oriented admin model?

Any install of Linux I've ever used prompts you for a root password  
upon installation, and every Linux I've ever used has root as an  
active account with a login shell.

> I guess
> what I really mean is, what is this, the 80s? I've used sudo for
> years... I wasn't aware anyone still used su (or an outright root
> login)...

LOTS of people use su, because it means that only one password has to  
be really kept secure, versus sudo which means a BUNCH of them do.  
Fewer avenues of attack.

Each and every time I've run into a messed up OS X system with the  
root account enabled, it's because someone with a lot of Linux  
experience did it to make it 'work more like Linux'. People used to  
using sudo will not likely enable the root account that way, ergo,  
they won't have problems..:-)

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs



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