On Feb 9, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

>
> I was unaware Apple messed with Samba. It appears you're correct, the
> needed "patches" for OS X are evidently available here:
> <http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/10.5.6/samba-187.8/patches/
>>
>
> According to:
>
> <http://news.samba.org/releases/>
>
> version 3.0.25b was a "normal" release from June 26th, 2007.
>
> I count these as standard "stable" releases since then:
>
> 3.0.25c, 3.0.26, 3.0.26a, 3.0.27, 3.0.27a, 3.0.28, 3.0.28a, 3.0.29,
> 3.0.30, 3.0.33, 3.0.34, 3.2.0, 3.2.3, 3.2.4, 3.2.5, 3.2.6,  3.2.7,
> 3.2.8, 3.2.9 and the current stable release 3.3.0.
>
> This means Apple is not 5 updates behind, but a staggering 20 updates
> behind. Remember, these are only counting standard stable releases,
> not any alpha, beta releases, or release candidates. The current
> bleeding edge is version 4.0.0 alpha 3.

there's also the question of "What are you gaining with the updates?"  
Some projects release a new version for every damn bug fix. The key is  
to go through the changelog and see what, if any, functionality you're  
gaining, and if it even applies to you. I can't count the number of  
various program updates I've run into, with a new version number that  
were "fixed XYZ with Red Hat and ABC with Solaris".

Like the sign that used to live above our server bench, back when we  
had 4 different Unix systems:

"You are in a maze of twisty little unixes, each slightly different"

It's fine for some hobbyist to mess around and try the latest&greatest  
of everything, but when you're dealing with an OS with a thousand  
interlinking 3rd party parts (which is, after all, pretty much what  
Unix is) being installed on millions of devices, well, you approach  
change a little bit more carefully, especially when it's a piece as  
deeply tied to the user experience as smb.

Finally, Apple also has a bad habit of compiling diffs into their code  
without updating the version number reported. I've run into this a  
couple of times.

I will admit, in 10.5 I've not had any of the problems that used to  
plague SMB connections in the early days: no more "choked down to 5  
bits per second" file transfers, no more infuriating "I just can't  
seem to connect any more" -32 errors that required rebooting to clear.  
Windows shares will no longer slip into a coma when the system sleeps  
(Something that is directly attributable to Windows, my smb shares on  
our Linux boxes are rock-solid).

I've been a sysadmin long enough to appreciate the wisdom of "If it  
ain't broke, don't fix it!" school of thought.


-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs



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