On Feb 23, 2010, at 4:26 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:

> 
> On Feb 23, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Dan wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> For Data security at the cost of speed is RAID 5 across 3 disks. There is a 
>>> parity bit so that if one drive fails, you still can recover the data by 
>>> replacing the failed drive. Slower than RAID 0, but your data is secure.
>> 
>> until the RAID card itself dies, and spazzes out on the master blocks.  The 
>> replacement card cannot then recover things, so you've lost it all anyway.
>> 
>> Which brings you back to Len's first query.  Iffa you do RAID you gots to 
>> keep really good backups or risk loosing EVERYTHING.  Big datacenters use 
>> RAID with LOTS of HDs - so they have both performance and data integrity.  
>> AND they also push their data off to other arrays.
> 
> What Dan said. We run a smallish (only 3 terabytes) buncha storage here, and 
> have been using RAID forever.
> 
> Contrary to what Len said RAID5 is NOT designed for data security, it is 
> designed for minimal downtime (If a drive fails, you can throw in a new one 
> and not take the raid offline while the RAID rebuilds itself.)
> 
> Backups are your ONLY Data Security...we've experienced the very thing Dan 
> warns about: a RAID card goes bad and barfs all over the RAID 5. Kablooey. We 
> had to put in a new card and rebuild the RAID from tape, a process that took 
> about 32 hours at the time, and at that we lost a fair chunk of data newer 
> than three days old (RAID died mid-incremental backup)
> 


Well so then my CCC scheduled backups should do what i need? I guess mainly 
what I want to do is transfer files faster between drives and have every thing 
on one machine except for a couple of esata externals for CCCs.

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA






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