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Subject: Re: Crashes and keyboard freeze on MMD
Date:    Wednesday, 25. April 2012
From:    "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To:      [email protected]
> This morning 12 hours later I cannot get this computer to boot.
> I get the normal start up chime/bong then once it lights up the
> monitor I have a black rectangle on a grey screen or just the apple
> in the center of the grey screen.
> Once with the 'C' key held down and the cd in it gave me the same
> except the rectangle had the "you need to restart your computer" text
> in it.
> 
> Tried booting into single user mode, it boots up to the exact same
> hang screen and message as last night. This screen will not accept
> any keyboard input.
> Tried booting with the option key, I get the selection of start up
> disks but it only goes to the blank "you need to restart your
> computer" screen when I try to start it.
> The only thing I have not tried is booting into OS 9 which I'm not
> sure if this machine will do.

What I would also try, is, if you can still go into Open Firmware. Hold Cmd-
Opt-O-F pressed when you hear the chime, until you see the Open Firmware 
screen (which will tell you, that you can now let go of the keys you should 
still be holding at this point).

If you can use your keyboard normally there, the computer should be fine.
Try commands like:
        devalias
        cd /
        ls
        .properties

To continue booting, type:
        mac-boot

To boot a CD-ROM, type:
        boot cd:

After hitting enter, you can then quickly hold the Opt key if you want to get 
the boot menu to choose where to boot from.

> It seems stuck in Applejack and Single user mode.

How do you figure?

So you can run Applejack?
And you can start-up in single user mode?

> Any tricks that I don't know about to make it boot to OSX?
> Or is this a fatal error?

After trying if Open Firmware still works for me, I'd zap the PRAM: Hold Cmd-
Opt-P-R at the chime. I normally do this at least twice (keep the keys pressed 
until you hear the third chime, then let go).

This /could/ solve the problem, but I'm not very sure of it.

> Could this hang cause any possible problems with the HDD?

Yes. Could be your hard drive, or the installation on it.
But then you shouldn't have these problems when booting form CD.

To be absolutely sure I'd remove the HDD and boot from CD. If that works, you 
propably have a broken HDD.


Cheers,
Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250

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