"Do these things have PRAM batteries? If so it's getting on to the age
where those can fail; I know non-Mini G4's have problems with this."

They sure do!


On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Bruce Johnson <[email protected]
> wrote:

>
> On Nov 16, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Clark Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Nov 16, 2012, at 1:05 PM, faithie999 wrote:
> >
> >> i have a mac mini G4 running 10.5.8.  yesterday (i thought it was a
> fluke at the time) and again just now, it locked up while playing streaming
> audio in firefox 3.6.24.  the mini was completely unresponsive, so i held
> the power button until it shut down.  then powered back on, got the startup
> chime, but then a gray screen with no apple.  i tried resetting PRAM,
> letting it cycle thru three startup chimes, but same result--gray screen
> but no apple.
> >>
> >> then i decided to try booting into open firmware to see if the machine
> was completely dead.  this worked, and at the prompt i typed mac-boot and
> immediately the apple, then gearwheel, appeared, and it rebooted fine.
> >>
> >> as i said above, this just happened again (altho i booted into open
> firmware without resetting PRAM, so that troubleshooting step had no
> effect).
> >>
> >> i know this is an ancient version of firefox, and i am now using safari
> for the streaming audio, but i'm curious why after a forced shutdown the
> mini wouldn't restart normally, and why issuing the mac-boot command from
> open firmware made a difference.
> >
> > It may well be that the real problem is in why it had trouble booting
> and that the streaming lock up was caused by that (it MAY).  For starters
> run Disk Utility / Disk Verify. Check the System Log, for the boot up
> process, when it locked up and for some time before that.
>
> Do these things have PRAM batteries? If so it's getting on to the age
> where those can fail; I know non-Mini G4's have problems with this.
>
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>
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