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From: "Kris Tilford" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: 4/11/2015 1:58:58 AM
Subject: Re: Strange Blue & White G3 issues with booting 10.4 Install or
10.3.9.
If you have access to any external HD enclosure, the easiest solution
is probably to clone an installed OS X 10.4 System onto the HD and
transfer the drive into the G3, remembering to hold the “Shift” key on
the 1st boot to reinitialize the hardware and rebuild all the caches so
that it’s bootable on the new hardware configuration. Even if your G3
10.4.11 System has XPostFacto extensions installed, it won’t matter,
you can manually remove those later if you want to get back to a more
pristine System.
I finally got some time together to do this. Unfortunately, with both a
clean-installed and working 10.4, and a 10.4 installed and updated
10.4.11 on the Beige G3 moved to the B&W do the same thing. On a regular
boot, it spins for a bit and shows a black rectangle. Safe mode boot
sits at the gray apple and spins forever. I can only assume at this
point that there's something it really doesn't like with the hardware.
Since it does seem to boot Single User Mode, I'm thinking something with
the hacked video card. I found a source online for the original ATI Rage
128 Pro PCI video card that it should have come with. Soon as it arrives
I'll give that a shot.
If your dead set on booting the installer I suggest using the CD, and
NOT the entire CD set of 4, but ONLY the CD #1 bootable installer. If
you get it to boot, select “Customize” and deselect EVERYTHING except
the “OS X Base System” and then install. This “minimal” installation
reduces chances of screw-ups and freezes during the boot process.
Further, almost every application is already outdated and needs to be
upgraded. If Safari isn’t installed via this minimal installation,
insert the CDs until you can find under the Installation>Packages
folder the Safari.pkg and double-click to install (I think it’s
installed as part of the minimal, but perhaps not?).
I tried all the various options for CD, DVD, etc boots and never even
got to the point of installing. I just want the thing to run, so I'm not
too picky on the specifics :)
I don’t think the G4 firmware or G4 CPU represent any impediment to
installation, so there’s no need to “go slow” with the G3 stuff.
If you’ve got any bootable 10.4 System on a HD, for instance, either
the original or cloned Beige G3 HD, you can place the installer DVD or
CD into the B&W and then navigate to the
Installation>Packages>OSInstall.mpkg file and double-click it to bring
up an Installer that doesn’t require being booted in the installer, but
you must target this installer at ANOTHER HD, not the HD you’re
currently booted from.
So far, the only OS X I've gotten to boot at all is the original 10.3.
Updating it to 10.3.9 or even 10.3.3 renders it unbootable. Nothing
10.4-related will boot either, whether the installer or a
preinstalled-elsewhere disk.
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With a G4 CPU and an FX 5200 you should be able to enable both Quartz
Extreme and Core Image on the FX 5200 over PCI. I’ve used both the FX
5200 & FX 6200 PCI with QE & CI on several hackintosh. If I remember
correctly, you need to modify a framework by eliminating the “AGP” from
a .plist file. There’s the tweak program “PCI Extreme” also, but I
don’t think it enables Core Image? I know for certain I’ve had both QE
& CI working with PCI FX5200.
This is my ultimate goal. I've been poking around in plists to make sure
this video card's vendor/product ID are properly added. At the moment I
need to put the card back in my PC just to verify the numbers, but
haven't been motivated yet. For funsies I tried the QE hack to no
success as yet.
I think the B&W may also support 10.5.8 with the G4 CPU and FX 5200?
Just something to think about.
I'm still debating what to do with 10.5. So far there doesn't seem to be
any applications I want to run that require it, and reports say it
sounds like it's noticeably more sluggish on it. We'll see. I have a
couple spare HDs, plus partitions, so I can always give it a try without
breaking too much.
Best luck!
Thanks!
Kris Tilford - Topeka, KS
Scott
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