On 2017-08-14 16:51, Milt King wrote:
I have a 350 mhz Mac G4.  What is the largest processor that I can place on this
motherboard.  This is just a project that I am interested in.

Milt King

Oh may, this is going to be expensive!

From the top of my head, the answer is: A Dual-1.8 GHz G4, but it depends if your motherboard has a Uni-North ASIC revision of 7 or above. Some older original "AGP Graphics" i.e. PowerMac3,1 had a lower revision.

If it's the predecessor "PCI Graphics" i.e. PowerMac1,2: don't bother... You would need a ZIF socket upgrade, and those are the rarest among the rare. Also I've heard that this specific motherboard design had issues with higher speeds, so you wouldn't want to go that route anyway. But maybe I'm mixing this up with the first versions of the motherboard, when it still used a G3 processor (with the same ZIF socket)...

Those would be your options (PCI Graphics only!): http://www.everymac.com/upgrade_cards/by_system/powermac_g4.html


Anyway, from "AGP Graphics" i.e. PowerMac3,1 onward, first check the Uni-North revision, as described here: http://www.newertech.com/tech_support/uni-north.php

If the Uni-North revision is lower than 7, you can always use a single-CPU upgrade. I believe there was a Single-2.0 GHz G4 CPU upgrade also (overclocked 1.8 GHz CPU), but they are very very very rare. And expensive too!

Also keep in mind that a fast CPU will not compensate for the general motherboard design. The bus speed of the G4 Power Macs was at a very slow 100 to 167 MHz. That is okay if the processor speed is equally low, like at 350 MHz. But the faster the CPU, the more you'll realize that the CPU will just sit there, wait for data to process but since the bus isn't able to shift the data to the processor quickly, the fast CPU will mostly be waiting on the bus.

BTW, I just did the research: a 350 MHz G4 is either a "PCI Graphics" PowerMac1,2 (ZIF socket!) or a "AGP Graphics" PowerMac3,1, both from 1999 (produced and sold till 2000). All later models, like the "Gigabit Ethernet" PowerMac3,3 from 2000, had higher CPU speeds.

So it's either this: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/specs/powermac_g4_350.html Or this: http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/specs/powermac_g4_350_agp.html

Anyway, for an AGP based PowerMac, those are your options:
http://www.everymac.com/upgrade_cards/by_system/powermac_g4_st.html

In general, this is what everymac.com has to say about G4 CPU upgrades:
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g4/faq/power-mac-g4-how-to-upgrade-processor-zif-agp-mdd.html

Good luck!

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